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The Inclusive AF Podcast
A People Podcast
Two BFFs. Decades in HR. Zero corporate speak.
Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton talk about work, culture, and the things most companies won't say out loud. What actually happens to people at work, and what to do about it.
Between them they've led people teams, run talent functions, built HR from scratch, and watched a lot of programs get announced and then quietly killed. They bring receipts. They also laugh a lot, because some of this is genuinely absurd.
Expect real talk about hiring, leadership, burnout, bias, and the gap between what companies say and what they do. Plus monthly guests who've been in the room where it happened.
If you work in HR, lead a team, or just want your job to suck less, you're in the right place.
New episodes weekly.
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GLP-1s at Work: Weight Bias, Benefits & Who Gets to Be Healthy
GLP-1s are changing more than people’s bodies. They’re exposing some uncomfortable truths about work. Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn get personal about their own experiences with GLP-1s, from paying out of pocket and navigating insurance coverage to realizing how differently the world can treat y...
Where are the Black people in Argentina?
What happens when an absence becomes so familiar that nobody thinks to question it? While watching the World Cup, Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn noticed that Argentina’s national team looked different from many of the teams competing around it. That observation opened a much bigger conversation a...
Leveraging AI to Improve Talent Quality and Diversity with Tina Shah Paikeday
Get ready for a thought-provoking conversation on The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this episode, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn sit down with Tina Shah Paikeday , Senior Advisor for Responsible AI at Findem, to dig into how AI is revolutionizing talent acquisition and diversity, equity, and inc...
Elevating Neurodiverse Talent: Breaking Interview Barriers with Coach Ramon Santillian
Ready to transform your job search and ace your next interview? In this powerful episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast, Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton sit down with expert interview coach Ramon Santillian to unpack the secrets to landing your dream role—especially for those who are neurodiverse or ...
Finding Reliable News: Media Blind Spots, Privilege, and the Power of Asking Questions
🎙️ Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast with Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton! In this special episode, the hosts dive deep into how and where people get their news, the challenges of finding unbiased sources, and why it matters more than ever with today’s fast-moving headlines. From Ground News an...
Women, Minorities, and Veterans: Who Benefits in Texas’ New Business Program?
Join Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn on this eye-opening episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast as they dive into recent controversial decisions affecting diversity, equity, and inclusion. From AT&T axing its DEI programs to Texas shifting its support for underutilized businesses, Jackye Clayton and ...
Actionable Paths to Racial Equity and Belonging in Business with Hugues Sygney Jr.
Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this powerful episode, hosts Jackye Clayton & Katee Van Horn sit down with Hugues Sygney Jr. for an inspiring conversation about justice, equity, and how businesses can create true impact in their communities—with a special focus on the B Corp movement. We dig...
Making Job Hunting Human Again with Michael Wenning @ HR Tech2025
Get ready for an eye-opening episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast! Hosts Katee Van Horn and Robin Schooling sit down with special guest Michael Wenning, HR tech innovator, to dive deep into the realities of modern job searching, hiring bias, and how technology is reshaping the candidate experience. D...
What Happens When Public Welfare Programs Get Gutted with Katee & Jackye
Get ready for another thought-provoking episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosted by Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton! In this episode, Jackye dives into the real impact of recent government layoffs — especially those hitting the CDC and Department of Education. Are these cuts really about "fisca...
When Company Culture Fails: The Hidden Signals Leaders Send Every Day with Dr. Bobby Melloy
Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Bobby Melloy and Jackye Clayton dive deep into the changing landscape of workplace culture, the science behind organizational psychology, and the impact of AI in HR. Joined by special guest Bobby Malloy from Culture Amp, we ...