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The Inclusive AF Podcast
A People Podcast
Welcome to the Inclusive AF Podcast, your go-to destination for all things DEI, HR, and workplace inclusivity. Hosted by two BFFs with a combined decades of experience in the people space, Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton, this podcast is where candid conversations meet insightful, actionable strategies. Together, they dive deep into the complex (and often messy) world of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, exploring how to build workplaces that are not just diverse, but truly inclusive.
Katee is a dynamic Chief People Officer and DEI thought leader at WebPros, dedicated to shaping inclusive corporate cultures that empower underrepresented groups. With expertise in global HR strategy, leadership development, and talent management, Katee brings a wealth of knowledge—and a sense of humor—to every episode.
Jackye, a seasoned HR tech and DEI professional, has spent over 15 years driving transformative change in the workplace. A connector at heart, she blends innovation, empathy, and data to craft inclusive work environments that thrive on diverse perspectives. Whether discussing the latest HR trends or sharing stories of workplace triumphs and struggles, Jackye’s unique approach adds a bold, refreshing take to the conversation.
Together, Katee and Jackye have built a podcast that is as insightful as it is entertaining, with their signature banter and lighthearted humor making complex topics feel accessible and fun. Expect a mix of practical advice, personal stories, and monthly guest appearances from industry leaders and change-makers.
Whether you're an HR professional, a DEI champion, or simply someone passionate about creating better workplaces, Inclusive AF is the podcast that’ll inspire, challenge, and make you laugh. Tune in weekly for a fresh take on creating workplaces where everyone can show up as their true, authentic selves.
Making Job Hunting Human Again with Michael Wenning @ HR Tech2025
Get ready for an eye-opening episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast! Hosts Katee Van Horn and Robin Schooling sit down with special guest Michael Wenning, HR tech innovator, to dive deep into the realities of modern job searching, hiring bias, and how technology is reshaping the candidate experience. D...
What Happens When Public Welfare Programs Get Gutted with Katee & Jackye
Get ready for another thought-provoking episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosted by Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton! In this episode, Jackye dives into the real impact of recent government layoffs — especially those hitting the CDC and Department of Education. Are these cuts really about "fisca...
When Company Culture Fails: The Hidden Signals Leaders Send Every Day with Dr. Bobby Melloy
Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Bobby Melloy and Jackye Clayton dive deep into the changing landscape of workplace culture, the science behind organizational psychology, and the impact of AI in HR. Joined by special guest Bobby Malloy from Culture Amp, we ...
Radical Generosity and Rethinking Competition: Insights from Ruchika Malhotra on Inclusive AF
Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast with hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! In this episode, we’re thrilled to welcome inclusion strategist and author Ruchika T. Malhotra, who dives deep into her groundbreaking books, including "Inclusion on Purpose" and he...
Navigating Chaos by Design: HR’s Role in Social Equity and Generational Wealth w/ Ashley & Desiree
🔥 NEW EPISODE ALERT! 🔥 Welcome to another unapologetically real episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast with your hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! This time, they’re joined by Desiree Goldey and Ashley King, powerhouse co-hosts of the Talentless podcast, for a candid, thought-provoking discuss...
Navigating AI Adoption in HR: From Shiny Tools to Meaningful Workforce Planning w/ Sarah & Sofia
Ready to transform your HR strategy for the future of work? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, host Katee Van Horn sits down with Sophia Whelan and Sarah Smart, co-founders of Horizon Human, for an honest, insightful discussion about the evolving landscape of HR and Talent Acquisition in t...
HR Tech 2025: The Future of Retention Through Peer-Driven Recognition with Curtis Forbes
🎸 How can we make EVERYONE feel seen at work—while actually driving retention and business results? On this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, Katee Van Horn sits down with the dynamic Curtis Forbes (he/him)—former jazz musician, serial entrepreneur, and founder of Mustard Hub—to jam about transf...
Navigating Uncertainty: Building Inclusive Cultures and Resilient Leaders w/ Dr. Carol Parker Walsh
Ready for a fresh, honest take on workplace inclusion and leadership? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn are joined by Dr. Carol Parker Walsh, an expert in organizational culture and psychological safety. They dive deep into what’s really going on in...
Would You Rather: DEI Hot Takes and Real Talk With Jackye and Katee
Ready for a refreshingly REAL conversation about diversity, equity, and inclusion? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn turn up the fun with a rapid-fire “Would You Rather: DEI Edition” game! They tackle everything from DEI budgets vs. CEO support, to ...
Why Changing DEI Terms Won’t Change the Mission with Eric M. Bailey
Welcome to another episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast with your hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! In this insightful and candid conversation, we welcome back Eric M. Bailey—author of "The Cure for Stupidity"—to dig deep into the ever-evolving world of diversity, equity, inclusion, and belong...
