The Meg and Amy Show

The Meg and Amy Show

Wit, Wisdom, Foresight

Meg BearMeg BearCo-Host
Amy WilsonAmy WilsonCo-Host

Join best friends Meg Bear and Amy Wilson on The Meg and Amy Show – a podcast for big-picture thinkers who are ready to challenge the status quo. As former tech executives and seasoned business leaders, Meg and Amy have spent decades leading through change. Now, they’re joining forces to break down the trends they’ve lived and helped shape.

Episode 33 | Marc Coleman on Why Nobody Has Budget for Theory Anymore
The Meg and Amy ShowMarch 13, 202600:51:03

Episode 33 | Marc Coleman on Why Nobody Has Budget for Theory Anymore

UNLEASH founder and CEO Marc Coleman joins Amy and Meg for a conversation about what 5,000 HR leaders actually need right now — not in theory, in practice. From launching a disastrous first conference with tangled lanyards and no sleep to building one of the world's largest HR technology events, Mar...

Episode 32 | Kim Scott on Radical Candor, Courage, and Leading When Nobody Has Answers
The Meg and Amy ShowMarch 06, 2026x
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Episode 32 | Kim Scott on Radical Candor, Courage, and Leading When Nobody Has Answers

Radical Candor author Kim Scott joins Amy and Meg for one of the most candid conversations about leadership, courage, and what it really means to care in an era of AI disruption and rising authoritarianism. From managing diamond cutters in the Soviet Union to coaching CEOs at Google, Apple, and Twit...

Episode 31 | Five Major Threads Shaping the Future | Season 2 Kickoff
The Meg and Amy ShowFebruary 27, 2026x
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Episode 31 | Five Major Threads Shaping the Future | Season 2 Kickoff

We're back! In our Season 2 opener, we dig into everything that's happened since we wrapped Season 1 — and there's a LOT. Amy's been vibe coding an app for her mom (with a full AI development team), Meg's been having her brain broken by AI agents, and the business landscape has shifted dramatically....

Episode 30 | WAR STORIES: The Corporate Scars That Made Us Stronger | Season 1 Finale
The Meg and Amy ShowDecember 26, 202501:36:39

Episode 30 | WAR STORIES: The Corporate Scars That Made Us Stronger | Season 1 Finale

Amy and Meg get brutally honest about the toxic workplace archetypes every leader faces - and share the real stories that shaped their careers. This isn't just storytelling; it's a masterclass in pattern recognition, strategic response, and hard-earned wisdom. These are REAL experiences from two exe...

Episode 29 | Jason Averbook on 4 Forces Reshaping Work: Why AI Transformation Isn't About Technology
The Meg and Amy ShowDecember 19, 202500:55:06

Episode 29 | Jason Averbook on 4 Forces Reshaping Work: Why AI Transformation Isn't About Technology

🚀 Jason Averbook reveals the 4 forces creating the biggest change HR has ever seen—and why 95% of AI projects are failing. This isn't about technology; it's about trust, engagement, and fundamentally rethinking how work gets done. ⚡ THE 4 FORCES RESHAPING WORK: 1. Engagement is slipping (trust in c...

Episode 28 | HR Tech's Top Analyst John Sumser: AI Reality, Career Reinvention & What's Broken in HR
The Meg and Amy ShowDecember 12, 202500:52:46

Episode 28 | HR Tech's Top Analyst John Sumser: AI Reality, Career Reinvention & What's Broken in HR

🚀 FROM FOOD CRITIC TO KITCHEN: John Sumser, HR tech's leading independent analyst for over 20 years, reveals what happens when you step from the sidelines into operations—and why most of what we believe about AI, HR, and career success is wrong. Learn how to navigate uncertainty as opportunity, why...

Episode 27 | Your Share of the Profits: Scott Santens on Why UBI Is Obvious, Not Radical
The Meg and Amy ShowDecember 05, 202501:09:39

Episode 27 | Your Share of the Profits: Scott Santens on Why UBI Is Obvious, Not Radical

Finland – Universal Basic Income Pilot🚀 THE CASE FOR GIVING PEOPLE MONEY: UBI expert Scott Santens reveals why the most radical idea in economics might be the simplest - just give people cash. Discover how Alaska has proven this works for 40+ years, why his crowdfunded basic income changed everythi...

Episode 26 | From Scarcity to Abundance: How Childhood Shaped Our Leadership Styles
The Meg and Amy ShowNovember 21, 202500:58:09

Episode 26 | From Scarcity to Abundance: How Childhood Shaped Our Leadership Styles

🔄 What happens when two leaders with completely different upbringings join forces? In this deeply personal episode, Amy and Meg explore how their vastly different childhoods - one marked by stability and support, the other by constant change and scarcity - shaped their leadership styles, decision-m...

Episode 25 | Maksim Ovsyannikov, CPO SugarCRM - Building The Product Org That Doesn't Exist Yet
The Meg and Amy ShowNovember 21, 202501:00:14

Episode 25 | Maksim Ovsyannikov, CPO SugarCRM - Building The Product Org That Doesn't Exist Yet

What would you build if you were creating a product organization from scratch in 2030? SugarCRM Chief Product Officer Maksim Ovsyannikov joins Amy and Meg to explore how AI is fundamentally reshaping product development, design thinking, and organizational structures. From "very little user experien...

Episode 24 | 24 Episodes of Learning: Our AI Transformation Framework for Getting Ahead
The Meg and Amy ShowNovember 07, 202500:57:08

Episode 24 | 24 Episodes of Learning: Our AI Transformation Framework for Getting Ahead

🚀 After 24 episodes and conversations with 20+ transformation leaders, Amy reveals the AI Transformation Maturity Model that synthesizes everything we've learned. Discover how to get ahead of AI transformation instead of being a victim of change, why this moment offers the biggest career opportunit...