The Meg and Amy Show

The Meg and Amy Show

Wit, Wisdom, Foresight

Meg BearMeg BearCo-Host
Amy WilsonAmy WilsonCo-Host

Join best friends Meg Bear and Amy Wilson on The Meg and Amy Show – a podcast for big-picture thinkers who are ready to challenge the status quo. As former tech executives and seasoned business leaders, Meg and Amy have spent decades leading through change. Now, they’re joining forces to break down the trends they’ve lived and helped shape.

Episode 42 | Your AI transformation has a shelf life — and it's getting shorter
The Meg and Amy ShowMay 15, 202601:00:33

Episode 42 | Your AI transformation has a shelf life — and it's getting shorter

Amy and Meg go solo to revisit the five threads they called at the start of the season — and find them converging and accelerating faster than anyone predicted. A wide-ranging conversation on creative destruction, high-agency work, AI security readiness, and how to find meaning when everything you b...

Episode 41 | Are You Optimizing Yesterday Instead of Building Tomorrow? | Brian Solis
The Meg and Amy ShowMay 08, 202601:00:17

Episode 41 | Are You Optimizing Yesterday Instead of Building Tomorrow? | Brian Solis

🚀 AI DARWINISM: Futurist Brian Solis reveals why most companies are using AI to optimize yesterday — and the "spark of the possible" that separates real transformation from glorified digitizing. Learn why ServiceNow's AI maturity index actually DROPPED in 2025, how IKEA's chatbot generated €1 billi...

Episode 40 | Why Your AI Agents Go Off the Rails — and the Harness That Saves Them | Ankur Bhatt
The Meg and Amy ShowMay 01, 202600:58:39

Episode 40 | Why Your AI Agents Go Off the Rails — and the Harness That Saves Them | Ankur Bhatt

Ankur Bhatt — Head of AI at Service Titan — joins Amy and Meg to explain why most AI agent initiatives die between demo and production, and what to do about it. Ankur has spent the last two years building production agents that handle high-stakes work like tax notices and payroll compliance, and he'...

Episode 39 | Your Scorecard Is Lying to You: Pat Wadors on Leadership, Agility & Holding the Mirror
The Meg and Amy ShowApril 24, 202601:03:36

Episode 39 | Your Scorecard Is Lying to You: Pat Wadors on Leadership, Agility & Holding the Mirror

Pat Wadors spent 20 years building cultures at some of tech's biggest names — LinkedIn, ServiceNow, UKG. Then she made an unusual move: from leading people at tech giants to becoming CHRO at Intuitive Surgical, the company behind the da Vinci surgical robot that has served over 20 million patients. ...

Episode 38 | Nilofer Merchant | Stop Making It All About You: Collective Plays Over Star Players
The Meg and Amy ShowApril 17, 202600:51:25

Episode 38 | Nilofer Merchant | Stop Making It All About You: Collective Plays Over Star Players

Nilofer Merchant, ranked among the top 50 most influential management thinkers in the world, joins Amy and Meg to dismantle one of management's most beloved myths: the high-impact player ideology. From launching over 100 products netting $18 billion at companies like Apple and Autodesk, to getting f...

Episode 37 | Doug Merritt on Leading With Love & Curiosity Through AI Disruption
The Meg and Amy ShowApril 10, 202600:59:50

Episode 37 | Doug Merritt on Leading With Love & Curiosity Through AI Disruption

Doug Merritt led one of the boldest transformations in enterprise software — taking Splunk from $220M perpetual license to over $3B in cloud SaaS revenue. Now, as CEO of Aviatrix, he's building the network security layer enterprises desperately need in the AI era. In this conversation, Doug gets vul...

Episode 036 | Stop Doing Things Right. Start Doing the Right Things. | Himanshu Palsule
The Meg and Amy ShowApril 03, 202600:57:07

Episode 036 | Stop Doing Things Right. Start Doing the Right Things. | Himanshu Palsule

Cornerstone OnDemand CEO Himanshu Palsule joins Amy and Meg to discuss Generation Beta, the leadership pipeline vacuum, and what it takes to build a workforce for a world that doesn't exist yet. From his World Economic Forum panel on corporate ladders to hiring a Chief AI Officer who asked for just ...

Episode 35 | Why Most AI Productivity Claims Are Dangerously Misleading | Ben Waber
The Meg and Amy ShowMarch 27, 202600:57:06

Episode 35 | Why Most AI Productivity Claims Are Dangerously Misleading | Ben Waber

MIT researcher and People Analytics author Ben Waber joins Amy and Meg for one of the most myth-busting conversations about AI, productivity, and what actually drives enterprise value. From a 23-year-old grad student who discovered that billion-dollar companies don't know how their own teams communi...

Episode 34 | You're the Weak Link Now | The Bottleneck Has Shifted From Your AI to You
The Meg and Amy ShowMarch 20, 202600:57:13

Episode 34 | You're the Weak Link Now | The Bottleneck Has Shifted From Your AI to You

Our guest had to cancel (get well soon, Ankur!). So instead of the episode we planned, you're getting something better — us, unfiltered, on everything that's been consuming our lives for the past month. Amy has 100+ hours of vibe coding under her belt and has things to say. Meg has been reading Dan ...

Episode 33 | Marc Coleman on Why Nobody Has Budget for Theory Anymore
The Meg and Amy ShowMarch 13, 202600:51:03

Episode 33 | Marc Coleman on Why Nobody Has Budget for Theory Anymore

UNLEASH founder and CEO Marc Coleman joins Amy and Meg for a conversation about what 5,000 HR leaders actually need right now — not in theory, in practice. From launching a disastrous first conference with tangled lanyards and no sleep to building one of the world's largest HR technology events, Mar...