The Meg and Amy Show

The Meg and Amy Show

Wit, Wisdom, Foresight

Meg BearMeg BearCo-Host
Amy WilsonAmy WilsonCo-Host

Join best friends Meg Bear and Amy Wilson on The Meg and Amy Show – a podcast for big-picture thinkers who are ready to challenge the status quo. As former tech executives and seasoned business leaders, Meg and Amy have spent decades leading through change. Now, they’re joining forces to break down the trends they’ve lived and helped shape.

Episode 036 | Stop Doing Things Right. Start Doing the Right Things. | Himanshu Palsule
The Meg and Amy ShowApril 03, 202600:57:07

Episode 036 | Stop Doing Things Right. Start Doing the Right Things. | Himanshu Palsule

Cornerstone OnDemand CEO Himanshu Palsule joins Amy and Meg to discuss Generation Beta, the leadership pipeline vacuum, and what it takes to build a workforce for a world that doesn't exist yet. From his World Economic Forum panel on corporate ladders to hiring a Chief AI Officer who asked for just ...

Episode 35 | Why Most AI Productivity Claims Are Dangerously Misleading | Ben Waber
The Meg and Amy ShowMarch 27, 202600:57:06

Episode 35 | Why Most AI Productivity Claims Are Dangerously Misleading | Ben Waber

MIT researcher and People Analytics author Ben Waber joins Amy and Meg for one of the most myth-busting conversations about AI, productivity, and what actually drives enterprise value. From a 23-year-old grad student who discovered that billion-dollar companies don't know how their own teams communi...

Episode 34 | You're the Weak Link Now | The Bottleneck Has Shifted From Your AI to You
The Meg and Amy ShowMarch 20, 202600:57:13

Episode 34 | You're the Weak Link Now | The Bottleneck Has Shifted From Your AI to You

Our guest had to cancel (get well soon, Ankur!). So instead of the episode we planned, you're getting something better — us, unfiltered, on everything that's been consuming our lives for the past month. Amy has 100+ hours of vibe coding under her belt and has things to say. Meg has been reading Dan ...

Episode 33 | Marc Coleman on Why Nobody Has Budget for Theory Anymore
The Meg and Amy ShowMarch 13, 202600:51:03

Episode 33 | Marc Coleman on Why Nobody Has Budget for Theory Anymore

UNLEASH founder and CEO Marc Coleman joins Amy and Meg for a conversation about what 5,000 HR leaders actually need right now — not in theory, in practice. From launching a disastrous first conference with tangled lanyards and no sleep to building one of the world's largest HR technology events, Mar...

Episode 32 | Kim Scott on Radical Candor, Courage, and Leading When Nobody Has Answers
The Meg and Amy ShowMarch 06, 2026x
32
01:04:12

Episode 32 | Kim Scott on Radical Candor, Courage, and Leading When Nobody Has Answers

Radical Candor author Kim Scott joins Amy and Meg for one of the most candid conversations about leadership, courage, and what it really means to care in an era of AI disruption and rising authoritarianism. From managing diamond cutters in the Soviet Union to coaching CEOs at Google, Apple, and Twit...

Episode 31 | Five Major Threads Shaping the Future | Season 2 Kickoff
The Meg and Amy ShowFebruary 27, 2026x
1
00:58:59

Episode 31 | Five Major Threads Shaping the Future | Season 2 Kickoff

We're back! In our Season 2 opener, we dig into everything that's happened since we wrapped Season 1 — and there's a LOT. Amy's been vibe coding an app for her mom (with a full AI development team), Meg's been having her brain broken by AI agents, and the business landscape has shifted dramatically....

Episode 30 | WAR STORIES: The Corporate Scars That Made Us Stronger | Season 1 Finale
The Meg and Amy ShowDecember 26, 202501:36:39

Episode 30 | WAR STORIES: The Corporate Scars That Made Us Stronger | Season 1 Finale

Amy and Meg get brutally honest about the toxic workplace archetypes every leader faces - and share the real stories that shaped their careers. This isn't just storytelling; it's a masterclass in pattern recognition, strategic response, and hard-earned wisdom. These are REAL experiences from two exe...

Episode 29 | Jason Averbook on 4 Forces Reshaping Work: Why AI Transformation Isn't About Technology
The Meg and Amy ShowDecember 19, 202500:55:06

Episode 29 | Jason Averbook on 4 Forces Reshaping Work: Why AI Transformation Isn't About Technology

🚀 Jason Averbook reveals the 4 forces creating the biggest change HR has ever seen—and why 95% of AI projects are failing. This isn't about technology; it's about trust, engagement, and fundamentally rethinking how work gets done. ⚡ THE 4 FORCES RESHAPING WORK: 1. Engagement is slipping (trust in c...

Episode 28 | HR Tech's Top Analyst John Sumser: AI Reality, Career Reinvention & What's Broken in HR
The Meg and Amy ShowDecember 12, 202500:52:46

Episode 28 | HR Tech's Top Analyst John Sumser: AI Reality, Career Reinvention & What's Broken in HR

🚀 FROM FOOD CRITIC TO KITCHEN: John Sumser, HR tech's leading independent analyst for over 20 years, reveals what happens when you step from the sidelines into operations—and why most of what we believe about AI, HR, and career success is wrong. Learn how to navigate uncertainty as opportunity, why...

Episode 27 | Your Share of the Profits: Scott Santens on Why UBI Is Obvious, Not Radical
The Meg and Amy ShowDecember 05, 202501:09:39

Episode 27 | Your Share of the Profits: Scott Santens on Why UBI Is Obvious, Not Radical

Finland – Universal Basic Income Pilot🚀 THE CASE FOR GIVING PEOPLE MONEY: UBI expert Scott Santens reveals why the most radical idea in economics might be the simplest - just give people cash. Discover how Alaska has proven this works for 40+ years, why his crowdfunded basic income changed everythi...