In this episode we speak with Amy Mosher, Chief People Officer with isolved to learn about her journey from HR Generalist to Chief People Officer for one of the industry's most loved workplaces.

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[00:00:00] . The first time we had a PEO this is 100 years ago and they called me one day and said,

[00:00:12] well, we need to come by and I'm like, why? They're like, we need to do a safety audit.

[00:00:18] I'm like, we're why? We're like, we're best white colors you can get. Like what? We're not

[00:00:26] driving around pork lifts. Like what the hell? What do you think they came and they found

[00:00:31] like 150 infractions. And they just, they would walk me around after the, after the

[00:00:37] audit, they walked me around and say, see that plug? You have a daisy chain to a charger

[00:00:42] and then you have another daisy chain. Yeah, that's a fire. That's a fire. All your people

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[00:01:25] I solved HCM dot com. Welcome to the next, I watch them to the practitioners corner another

[00:01:37] episode of the practitioners corner. Today we've got Amy Moser who is the chief people officer

[00:01:44] with ice off. Moser, Moser, Moser, did I say wrong? Yeah, you're good. No. Stop it. You're

[00:01:51] making me crazy. Stop this. So you're good. Yeah. I answer to a lot of things but we won't

[00:02:00] get it. Yeah. First statement. Welcome. Also, I've had three last names so I just go with it.

[00:02:07] Whatever. Fair statement. At this point, sounds like a blend. You're good. I always spell

[00:02:12] Amy correctly. You're good. Yeah. So welcome. Welcome in why don't you take a moment, introduce

[00:02:18] yourself. Let everyone know who you are and then we're going to learn all about you and your

[00:02:23] journey and what you're doing. Sounds awesome. My name is Amy Moser and I am the chief people

[00:02:32] officer. She did, she did emphasize the sure. I'm just saying. I picked it up. I picked

[00:02:41] it up. Colgate. She was super gracious to just, she just said, Ryan, that's great. It's

[00:02:50] so fun. It's so fun. It's happy to be here. You know, for me, I was really looking forward

[00:02:57] to this, this week. I have a lot of other things going on from a business and personal perspective

[00:03:04] and it was like, I get to talk to you while you're Ryan this week, everything's going

[00:03:07] to be fun. Glad we could be the comic relief of your weeks. So chief people officer, what

[00:03:15] are you doing with I solve? Because we know that we love I solved and have a long relationship

[00:03:23] but I can see the job being kind of too full before you do for the company, but also how

[00:03:30] you help customers. Yes. Because what you do and it helps a lot of people in your position

[00:03:37] helps people that are also C.H.R.O.s chief people officers, people that deal with the things

[00:03:43] that you they're company act problems that you all solve. So tell it take us into a kind

[00:03:47] day in the life because I'm curious to like how random your days are.

[00:03:56] Isn't a little bit random. Every day something completely random happens, I'll tell you what

[00:04:02] happened to me this morning when I woke up but for me, the role as the chief people officer at an

[00:04:08] H.D.M. business and then H.R. Solutions business is kind of like a dream job because they're not

[00:04:15] only doing amazing things from an internal H.R. perspective and engagement perspective.

[00:04:24] You are also helping your customers, you are also also entrepreneurial as well because it's a private

[00:04:32] business and we're growing it really from nothing. It's it's a lot of fun but I get to do a lot

[00:04:38] of different things. I'm going to be a part of the marketing team, a part of the sales team,

[00:04:41] I'm on sales calls all the time because we utilize our own software and gosh if you're going to

[00:04:50] work with 2,500 people that all know what great H.R. looks like and they tout it every single day,

[00:04:56] you better have great H.R. and great business practice and again because we're using our own

[00:05:02] our own solutions in our own software or drink it our own champagne. They're and we've grown our

[00:05:08] business so significantly 100% over the last two years from an employee footprint perspective

[00:05:15] and we've got 27% annual compound growth as a business year after year, last few years like it's

[00:05:23] it's a great case study I think for what a culture and engagement enable me can do it a

[00:05:29] greater business and the right tools. Is it shocking to you how many H.R. technical plays are

[00:05:37] horrible at H.R.? No, this is baffled me for 20 years this is something that I'm like you're selling

[00:05:50] to recruiters are you selling to benefits or you're selling payroll you're selling to H.R.

[00:05:55] and you're horrible at H.R. Yeah and you want people first business it's crazy. No, no,

[00:06:02] it is really crazy. It's also really crazy to see and we have the intel from our competitors

[00:06:08] but it's really crazy to see how many don't use their own tools tech market best practice true

[00:06:15] they're using to be honest competitor tool. They're using I saw this way.

[00:06:25] That's a success story on top of a success story. Right now I can tell you though because we

[00:06:36] did this right and I saw this in the right place we you know tired anybody that we want from

[00:06:40] many of our competitors we're doing a really great job of the track. Well, I can see you being on

[00:06:44] sales calls for a lot of reasons you got a great personality you've been in the business you

[00:06:50] understand people but you can also look at the other person on the other side of the desk and say

[00:06:54] okay here's how I use it. Yeah yeah and it's huge for them because they really look they're not

[00:06:59] looking for that salesperson to tell them how theoretically work no the authenticity that comes from

[00:07:05] look is this imperfect absolutely not no absolutely no none are so cool I can tell you how

[00:07:13] there's 11 right right but I can tell you how this thing can work we've used it to grow our

[00:07:19] business it can be used I'm the perfect example of this and you know guess what our team doesn't

[00:07:26] get paid to support me so I can do it with the resources that I have I know you can do it because

[00:07:35] we're backing you and here's your amazing team and and they know what they're doing and they've

[00:07:40] been with us for a long time because we don't have a lot of turnover and and they're going to treat

[00:07:44] you like a real person which is huge just culturally as well it's just a much it's a very different

[00:07:50] experience and that's really really fun and then the other piece that I got to do a lot is the networking

[00:07:57] because we've got the people here oh network got a running full horde it's huge for me it gets

[00:08:05] huge for just the HR community as well and then as a company that's owned by a private equity

[00:08:11] business that has 45 other companies we get to talk to all of their HR individuals and

[00:08:17] and share best practice and do a lot of networking as well so I feel very fortunate that my my bucket

[00:08:23] is full and all the different areas but it does make for a really interesting job and every day I

[00:08:32] wake up doing something different some days it's very strategic some days it's very internal HR

[00:08:37] this morning I got first call in the morning on my cell phone whenever I'm pleased I'm getting

[00:08:41] ahead by the shower head and their hotel room while they're work workplace injury great fantastic

[00:08:50] that is crazy yeah you can be the head of a department I was like they're just let me know

[00:08:54] that their hands are loose even don't take safety even don't think safety you but to all too often

[00:09:04] and these things like I remember the first time we a we had a PEO this is 100 years ago

[00:09:11] and they called me one day and they said well we need to come by and I'm like oh why

[00:09:16] they're like we need to do a safety audit I'm like we're why we're like we're best white

[00:09:24] colors you can get like what we're driving around pork lifts like what the hell video they came

[00:09:31] and they found like 150 infractions and they just they would walk me around after the

[00:09:37] bit after the audit they walked me around see see that plug you have a daisy chain to a charger

[00:09:43] and then you have another daisy chain yeah that's a fire that's a fire all your people could burn

[00:09:48] up in a fire I'm like the chance is something that happening come on come on let's do the odds here

[00:09:55] let's hold the dice well gentlemen if it can happen it's gonna happen

[00:10:00] I mean look get in hitting ahead with a shower ahead that yeah that's impressive although you

[00:10:09] have checked out off the list yeah yeah it's kind of like farmers insurance commercials we've seen

[00:10:15] it right yeah yeah yeah they walk around after HR people all day

[00:10:26] you caught that your zipper hmm you're just dipping the jacket up okay okay well I guess I

[00:10:33] guess technically that is a workplace injury okay we'll work on that Ryan you want to take

[00:10:38] you want to take us back you want to go back to childhood what do you want to yeah I mean how far

[00:10:42] back do you want to go you were born in 1977 on a farm in middle of Chicago I'm just kidding so

[00:10:49] was I was I was I right I was probably location and actually to be for us born Hawaii

[00:10:55] definitely not Chicago right what you leave why do you leave right I go back all the time okay okay that's

[00:11:04] there I dated a girl this one but when people tell me when they were born and why I'm like

[00:11:12] dude you made it you're there why go why don't you know I know industry and white but an incredible

[00:11:23] place to grow up and it's beautiful there but after I was only there because my dad was stationed

[00:11:29] in Okinawa yeah and that was the closest space he was in the Marines for 30 years and so I feel

[00:11:38] that I learned all my people skills from moving around a lot and how to make new friends and also my

[00:11:45] conflict resolution skills as well like just managing the family and I've been the matriarch of our

[00:11:51] family since I was little wow that's still around she knows it was like it's amazing but it's

[00:11:59] I'm the oldest daughter and and of you know one of my my dad's one of the oldest kids in a very

[00:12:05] large Mexican family and what you are you manage everything so I think I got a lot of

[00:12:13] leadership skills like inherently for my job but for me I fell into HR I actually started working

[00:12:20] retail just to make ends meet and ended up as a team relations coordinator at Mervyn's California

[00:12:29] I don't know if anybody remembers Mervyn's back it's now target by the way so everything got

[00:12:36] rolled into target after merger and that was a lot of fun we actually were implementing this was

[00:12:44] like the Stone Age you guys I mean and we were implementing time management for retail utilizing

[00:12:51] a homegrown system at that time and it was my job did you go from punch cards to time clocks yes wow

[00:12:59] I was it was my job to like figure it out and also then do the scheduling as well so

[00:13:06] as a team relations coordinator which is like a meeting.

[00:13:09] League in retail is what backed in was paper base and it was all paper and it was chaos like you

[00:13:14] couldn't write stuff in pen because I grew up in retail as well yes and you had to write

[00:13:19] in pencil run like you're sure everything was in pencil because Janet Janet was sick that day

[00:13:26] wrong was arrested you know like yeah really and I had a red pencil and a blue pencil

[00:13:33] and so I can make edits on pencil on the sheets but then we went electronic and so

[00:13:39] implemented that so that was my first kind of venture into technology and in retail you just

[00:13:45] learned to think on your feet you deal with a lot of turnover you're hiring a lot of people

[00:13:50] you're training a lot of people like it's a real training ground for and conflict resolution

[00:13:54] with customers. Absolutely and you're also running a store like yeah of the keys to this multi-million

[00:14:01] dollar beast and you're working all the time until midnight and then you're back there

[00:14:08] for three in the morning inventory inventory is on Tuesday great

[00:14:14] you're going to 20 hours of my life yeah I remember because I was working back then I was young

[00:14:19] I was working probably 120 hours a week and then my boss my at the time came to me sick

[00:14:27] and we can't pay overtime I said that's cool he goes yeah but um well we still need some of the

[00:14:34] work done I was just I'll just clock in for 40 I say they just remind me when the clock in I'll

[00:14:40] clock in for 40 huh? I'm giving the HR Hives right now yeah I wait literally go over the time

[00:14:46] of the time clock clock in and remind myself to clock out and I just go back to work like I

[00:14:52] know everything else going on I'm like oh care yeah so so uh

[00:14:58] one of those things once retails in your blood like if you go into a target today

[00:15:03] or even a Walmart or something like that you can't unsee it you can't I know I still know the

[00:15:08] department codes of Walmart yes I could take you through the store and turn you the margin on products

[00:15:14] yes it's saved yeah and anytime the merchandise like isn't like small

[00:15:19] always drives me crazy like you're like I would I constantly hold it back over like

[00:15:29] I pull I pull the bigger sizes out in the back that I'm like yeah I don't like it and it goes

[00:15:34] right in the front and it's real bad because usually the the person who's doing the work is like

[00:15:40] five feet from me and I'm like here's great here's the best thing you can do in that situation

[00:15:48] once you take it out just hang it over another rack okay it's okay they'll come through they'll

[00:15:56] grab it they'll put it over in the dressing room they'll put it in the right spot but trying to

[00:16:01] actually put it back don't do yeah I kind of see myself if I go and do that today and I just

[00:16:07] start dropping stuff yeah William told me it's okay I don't think that'll work oh no it'll work

[00:16:13] oh no maybe you know you know I'm right but you know what I know how it goes so I'm putting the

[00:16:21] back where it goes and if you guys set something like randomly in a non clothing area like

[00:16:28] yes somewhere and like hide it I'm like no that makes it either to put like you're

[00:16:33] talking someone someone look just I roll roll that basket up to the front end and leave it

[00:16:39] you're okay I'm putting it back in the right spot I did I'm not going to lie I'll I'll

[00:16:46] I'll admit it right now I left strawberries in the container aisle this morning

[00:16:53] that was completely by accident though because I got home it's my life's personal

[00:16:58] it's like a life's birthday and we I took the kids over get some food to make breakfast

[00:17:04] got home like where are the strawberries I'm like I left it on the shelf top of where yeah great

[00:17:12] but I didn't do that on purpose but I never worked retail I did work in I guess super market

[00:17:17] does that retail it's it is grocery yeah and then I used to face the aisles and so I still have

[00:17:22] an issue when I walk down the aisle and I see gaps or it's I face them up you know I put

[00:17:30] on that oh yeah I can't help but look at them and count like okay it's five deep is four high

[00:17:34] is 20 there and I count inventory in my head it's just a stupid thing that never leaves you

[00:17:39] no I had to build in caps I had to do all that stuff yes so like again at a young age when I see

[00:17:46] carts in a parking lot it drives me crazy like I can find myself just going into an anxiety attack

[00:17:52] like yeah who is running this thing there's cards out here

[00:18:03] so did you do HR at Merwin I did end up doing HR at Merwin that's how I grew up

[00:18:11] in a couple of years yeah it's a it's a crazy job and then I went I needed a little more

[00:18:18] flexibility away from the retail and I was really burnt out yeah I went into a florist business

[00:18:24] which is not what I would recommend you go to when you're looking to not be burnt out

[00:18:28] I'll explain it's crazy there's crazy times crazy times and flowers and I work for the largest

[00:18:35] single location florist in the bay area and we service the whole bay area in his family

[00:18:41] owned business and I had a ton of responsibility there as we should be running the business then

[00:18:45] um I just can remember even the smells and just being knee deep in rose petals on mother's day

[00:18:53] and like it's it and trying to figure out a 40 if this is before we you had had google maps so

[00:19:00] trying to figure out a 40 drop in downtown San Francisco like it's craziness total craziness

[00:19:08] um yeah it was tiring it was seasonal so we would usually go to like the local community

[00:19:17] college and say like you you you'll be really busy for this amount of time and then you'll have

[00:19:23] a super flexible schedule so we did a lot of phone sales there it was a lot of fun that's

[00:19:27] where I got a lot of my entrepreneurial experience though we're working really closely with the family

[00:19:31] because they they were involved in the business been out running the business so I had a lot of

[00:19:36] responsibility as far as running the day-to-day and then reported into the rest of the family so it's

[00:19:40] very much like you you own the business right like you're responsible for the top line bottom line

[00:19:46] making sure things happen a lot more like just risk in a retail business. You've got to have

[00:19:54] drivers you it's very busy that'll have shut things around like so I learned a lot about

[00:19:59] about that and then moved into recruiting because I you know it's gonna have my first baby and

[00:20:09] you know thought I'd need to not be working every holiday. So I started with a temp agency

[00:20:17] and just started as a recruiter for a biotech company and it just so happens that the biotech

[00:20:22] company was in a huge growth mode and I was so flexible because of my retail experience and

[00:20:29] just jumping in and and doing whatever needed to be done and I was part of the journey to take that

[00:20:35] business public so that was fantastic. And in the end I was an HR business partner so I took my

[00:20:42] education and put it to give you space there and so I really grew up there and had a very strong female

[00:20:49] um CPO in high-rise CPO and she was amazing but she was also not not amazing at a lot of things so

[00:20:58] yeah really great I really learned how to learn from things that maybe you don't agree with

[00:21:04] um well it's an incredible vast practice like she was an amazing leader as well so

[00:21:10] well those are some of the best experiences where you learn what not to do absolutely.

[00:21:15] I think that's everybody for the way that's everybody right

[00:21:21] so up until this point I mean you're busy you're moving you're doing a bunch of things

[00:21:27] was this all intentional or was it by happenstance like you're here you ended up there yeah I think

[00:21:34] it's back then especially super rare for somebody to be like I want to be an agent.

[00:21:38] I think that's really is good.

[00:21:42] Well actually I mean there's focus degrees on HR now which

[00:21:46] is online.

[00:21:47] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm saying.

[00:21:53] But they um I feel like back then if you were if you were there's a couple of skill sets

[00:22:00] I think you had to have I think you had to be willing to just pick up the dirt

[00:22:05] like yeah sure I was clean the corners like and you weren't afraid to have hard conversations

[00:22:12] but you also one of those people who would just figure it out because there wasn't a guide book

[00:22:19] there wasn't necessarily a best practice like you just were and before the internet you guys like

[00:22:24] you just figured it out and you made decisions based on your gut and your gut was good right

[00:22:31] like I think that that's like the barometer back then.

[00:22:34] For instance, people don't think the internet's actually made us better

[00:22:39] No

[00:22:40] In this regard because people have been lean on it too heavy and go well I found it on the internet

[00:22:45] let's try that it's like yeah first of all that's just some yeah or some that wrote some

[00:22:50] article that you know there's no experience

[00:22:55] Do you do you check do you reference check everything like if I look up a recipe

[00:23:00] I don't care it looks good the photos look good

[00:23:04] I'm game like that's how I judge my my searching now just in my revolver

[00:23:11] Then I check it looks good. I like the sauce and I make it but I kind of feel like that's how people do things

[00:23:16] They will help people do and I do run into a lot of interesting like policy documentation right

[00:23:24] When we're working on something new we'd be like is that really

[00:23:28] Yeah, where do we get that from?

[00:23:30] It's especially in handbooks employee handbook

[00:23:33] I would love to do a study around employee handbooks and find all the crazy stuff. Yes

[00:23:38] Added to a handbook because somebody found it on the internet. Oh yeah

[00:23:43] Just use the whole handbook they found

[00:23:47] Just like that's a name just search for a place to name and just change the corporate name

[00:23:52] I was like hey, we have an employee handbook

[00:23:55] Be a fun project. Let's just go grab like four dozen handbooks and throw them in the chat you be here some type of

[00:24:02] And it's the crazy and it's the crazy things

[00:24:05] It's like on page 29 it says that you can't bring pens to work or some you know like

[00:24:10] So you can't wear white

[00:24:15] You know

[00:24:19] Actually enterprise rena-car had that you cannot wear white socks. You had a black or blue which is the craziest thing ever

[00:24:26] I ran into a company that I actually

[00:24:29] Interested in employee satisfaction survey for where the landlord of the building

[00:24:36] Would you allow potted plants

[00:24:41] I cannot I could possibly make this up. I'm not making this up

[00:24:44] The landlord of the building

[00:24:48] So I did one-on-one interviews. I did a survey

[00:24:53] I did focus groups. I went around about 160 employees is an ad agency

[00:24:58] Lincoln's cash are and

[00:25:00] When I presented the data at the end

[00:25:03] They thought we was all the C suite so I'm standing in front of

[00:25:07] And they're like our will you've been spending the whole summer doing this bit

[00:25:11] What's uh, what's the you know they're thinking money? Yeah, we're thinking

[00:25:15] Yeah, what what what they just want more money right I'm like actually no

[00:25:21] They the number one thing that air universally

[00:25:25] That everyone of your employees wants is they want potted plants

[00:25:28] They want to be able to bring in their finest tree or cactus or whatever

[00:25:32] CEO looks at me and

[00:25:34] Like literally he's like I don't believe you. I'm like okay

[00:25:39] Because I was really air. I mean, you know, how's it business school? So if you know part of this was rubbing off on me

[00:25:44] But yeah, I looked at my said I think that's great that you don't believe me because I'm kind of stack of data

[00:25:50] That I can show you and improve to you person by person

[00:25:55] So I'm gay

[00:25:57] And so I'm literally looking at him like I'm standing up. I'm like hey dude

[00:26:01] I got the data you can say you don't believe me

[00:26:04] Don't care. Here's the data and I'm already paid. I don't really care

[00:26:07] So I laid it out with him and he goes so you're telling me

[00:26:13] William they want to get on their desk

[00:26:17] And if I get on it plants in here that everyone's happy I said that's the first thing second thing is vision insurance or some random

[00:26:26] In benefit deal and third would be recognition

[00:26:30] Recognition could be in the form of a praise or compensation

[00:26:33] But really if you just fix pot potting plants

[00:26:36] You got a year. Yeah keep your just gonna be flying high. Yeah

[00:26:39] It calls a team meeting the next day the entire

[00:26:43] Organization he's already talked to landlord said we're moving

[00:26:47] If you don't allow us to have

[00:26:50] I'm I'm canceling the lease. I own a law firm

[00:26:55] We're canceling the lease. We're moving if I can't have pot of landlords like oh hell

[00:26:59] Yeah, yeah, I've pot of plants

[00:27:01] He has this company

[00:27:03] That shows up that brings plants to the to the business and they come by every week in water

[00:27:09] You know what I would not what I love about that story is it is that they listen to you and they

[00:27:16] Next day

[00:27:18] Attention improved over that

[00:27:22] That was still there for like a couple months and everyone's just coming by will you thank you so much. I'm like

[00:27:28] You

[00:27:32] All I did was ask him like all right

[00:27:35] That's a secret sauce right there. Yeah, ask what they want to go figure oh

[00:27:41] He fun

[00:27:44] Because all the other executives were like look at me like who in the hell is this kid and I'm just like hey

[00:27:51] Listen, this is I've I did this. I did it methodically. I talked to every single person

[00:27:57] I did focus groups and it panels

[00:28:00] There's not a stone that I did not touch I asked everyone king for a day. What would you change?

[00:28:05] And then like they're just staring at me and I'm and he goes

[00:28:09] Okay

[00:28:10] And in the next day is so great because the next day he had already worked it out with the landlord

[00:28:14] I don't know how the hell he did it

[00:28:15] I probably should have figured that out but he did it with the landlord and he did it with the potted pants coming

[00:28:21] It was a plants delivery service and so is like plant says a surface so past

[00:28:27] And so

[00:28:29] They would come by you know this could be your four or six periods they would just come by on a big van

[00:28:34] Then we'd come by each person's work station. They go hey, what kind of plants do you want?

[00:28:38] If people are like

[00:28:41] I like I got cactus. Okay, cool

[00:28:44] Flip look you know show them different plants and every time they come out of water

[00:28:48] They'd say do you want a different plant? You like the plants that you have

[00:28:53] Yes

[00:28:53] Like a damn forest in this place

[00:28:56] I mean I need some plants in here

[00:29:00] And for like I mean it was great because everyone was riding this high

[00:29:04] Because it's like finally the executives listen to us

[00:29:07] Then he was something simple and it didn't take you know, didn't impact or even out right like

[00:29:14] Well, that's a rounding error. That's a part-tap

[00:29:17] Yeah

[00:29:18] I think he was more upset that he paid you to tell him the by plan

[00:29:23] Then he was turning the gals 100% real

[00:29:27] He's like we paid this kid $25,000. Tell us we plants

[00:29:33] You know

[00:29:35] It's not about it. It's about results

[00:29:37] Well, I mean this is a great HR lesson of just listen to your people

[00:29:41] I'll be asking people and listen to your people

[00:29:44] Generally speaking they'll tell you where their pains are

[00:29:48] Oh that you they'll tell you whether you are

[00:29:52] Want to listen or not? I think in a lot of situations like just open up your ears a little bit

[00:29:57] And take your own ego out of it

[00:30:00] Usually figure it out

[00:30:02] Me and a former business partner we would do this bit about every six months to me a year is usually after some alcohol

[00:30:11] Is we do this bit where we would say

[00:30:14] What am I doing? It's pissing you off

[00:30:16] I it's okay like we're in a safe zone. We're going to

[00:30:20] Safe zone safe space

[00:30:22] Usually at a bar

[00:30:23] So go ahead after a couple shots tequila it's like all right just it's okay just tell me

[00:30:28] And every single time I did that and every single time that was done with me

[00:30:32] There was always some little tiny thing

[00:30:36] That's like hey

[00:30:38] Like I have a business partner on one point named Brian and I was oh no short name to Brian

[00:30:43] For no reason and now it's no reason whatsoever

[00:30:46] Like I just did it it was a it was a bit

[00:30:49] And and at one point I asked him that question he said would you just call me Brian?

[00:30:54] Ha ha ha

[00:30:57] Oh my

[00:31:00] Well, Brian he's like yeah I just hate that

[00:31:04] You're gonna tell me that two years ago

[00:31:08] It's two other letters

[00:31:10] It's not that big a deal why don't you tell me

[00:31:13] So what I mean I think that's another thing of like actually listening to people

[00:31:18] Yeah, I'm curious

[00:31:20] Yeah, take that feedback be vulnerable

[00:31:23] Yes

[00:31:24] But then doing something about it. I think that's the key

[00:31:27] I talked to my team all the time about if you're gonna ask them the question be prepared to do something about it

[00:31:32] Otherwise just take that question right off there. There's no

[00:31:35] If you're asking me to just ask

[00:31:39] Don't ask don't ask no that's the that's the decision tree

[00:31:43] You can ask

[00:31:49] Don't just because you're wasting their time and your time

[00:31:52] I know nobody wants to time wasted you're actually damaging the integrity of what you're asking

[00:31:59] You know your survey or whatever it is like so where'd you go after this biotech success story? Oh

[00:32:05] So I went to another biotech that was that was

[00:32:08] Restructuring their business on a referral from the CFO

[00:32:11] So I could be closer to home because I've been commuting

[00:32:14] Not in the Bay Area back then was crazy. Oh, yeah

[00:32:18] And you say commuting like Ryan

[00:32:23] Guy Kassalki once told me that

[00:32:26] He lost almost two billion dollars no he lost two billion dollars

[00:32:30] Like because he didn't take the CEO job at Yahoo because there's a 15 miles

[00:32:36] But 15 miles in the Bay Area

[00:32:39] Could be two hours. Yeah, absolutely

[00:32:42] Absolutely

[00:32:43] So it really could and certainly certainly back then even worse

[00:32:47] and

[00:32:50] There's it was crazy and I was also pregnant again

[00:32:54] And I was about to have another baby and I was super super pregnant

[00:32:58] And I was also taking my toddler with me to work in the commute and it could be an hour could be two hours

[00:33:04] Like you didn't know there's times when I had a piece

[00:33:09] So I don't even tell you like I seriously consider my giant belly and my kid in the car jumping out on the side of the fridge

[00:33:18] That's legit we're Joe. We're no one you know

[00:33:21] And they would have been probably what it's not the same thing right like we were all of this together

[00:33:25] When you're sitting trapped with the same people on the right at the left for two hours

[00:33:29] They were in together people

[00:33:32] I'm actually sitting in campment over here. Somebody's put up a tent

[00:33:36] So he's got a keg of beer

[00:33:38] Have you have you guys seen this is well? Well not all top of because we're talking about having to go to the bathroom

[00:33:43] There's no I'll have to find the link it's an Instagram

[00:33:47] Shorter video whatever we're gonna talk about that little thing that they now have for women

[00:33:52] No, no, no, no, well, no not that

[00:33:55] I can't however

[00:33:57] It works the same way

[00:33:59] Reinforced his car

[00:34:02] He caught a hole in the bottom of his car

[00:34:04] Right and he put like suction like rings around it and like like rigged it up with a tube

[00:34:10] So he can go to the bathroom while driving

[00:34:13] And it just goes out the bottom of the car goes all the way down through the through the tailpipe it goes all the way

[00:34:20] Down runs out and goes through the tailpipe. It's amazing. It's okay

[00:34:23] That's amazing

[00:34:25] I'm gonna find the link and send it. That's why they make gatorade bottles. It's good

[00:34:30] Yeah

[00:34:32] Shoulders and trees and you know

[00:34:35] Yeah

[00:34:37] I taught them that early 100%

[00:34:40] The way he's stopping

[00:34:45] Now I made a mistake in we win work as a boy's as well

[00:34:51] and and

[00:34:53] Travel across the country. This would happen. We would call him piscred aids

[00:34:58] So then

[00:35:01] So after the kiss this door no after the kiss would be done to be like dad can we throw it at the window?

[00:35:12] So they would actually just kind of save up for the trip so they could create piscred aids

[00:35:17] I'm like I kind of started something that probably should

[00:35:21] Like

[00:35:24] Maybe we should just stop

[00:35:29] I always hated this kid

[00:35:33] To her credit she's like why did you start to spit?

[00:35:38] It kids have to put somehow

[00:35:41] Open up the window throughout the gatorade bottle bottle

[00:35:44] You know, hey here's my deal on littering

[00:35:47] We're creating employment for somebody somebody's got to pick that up. Oh boy here we go

[00:35:54] If you see someone is spending parts right it but somebody's kind of somebody's got to pick that up

[00:35:58] There's an adopt the highway

[00:36:04] Exx over this video casually is your HR head is it going?

[00:36:08] Don't take this advice

[00:36:11] It creates volunteer and service days right that's what it does

[00:36:17] Yeah, so we're so we're 40 minutes in

[00:36:21] We still haven't gotten passed her recruiting days. No, we got like 87 VP of HRs before she gets the eyes off

[00:36:27] As CPU

[00:36:29] So part one of part two

[00:36:33] Some companies I

[00:36:36] Helped about a little bit. I worked for the largest private lead

[00:36:41] Owned employees employer in China

[00:36:45] Oh, that's it. Just tell us more. That's right. I wasn't in China. I was managing their US business

[00:36:52] Wow, so they're spying on us through you. Yeah, 100% tire look yeah, you're a connoon

[00:36:58] This is tick tock

[00:36:59] And the team I was managing was selling the hardware for every single thing you probably have at your desk right now

[00:37:05] Which is why I thought you're gonna say balloons weather balloons

[00:37:11] You

[00:37:13] We are really on very on with the balloons

[00:37:17] These tens of billions of dollars in revenue. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, and they had

[00:37:23] Their head of global HR was the executive assistant to the president

[00:37:29] No, that's cool. I don't hate that. I don't I don't hate that the sense of there's a relationship

[00:37:33] There's a conduit definitely had one but H

[00:37:37] China's not HR in the US

[00:37:39] I know it was a really interesting process. I got along so quite well

[00:37:43] But it was a very interesting process to be employed

[00:37:47] by a company of that scale doing

[00:37:50] what you're doing and um, and they thought from an HR but also a personality perspective that I was straight crazy

[00:37:56] Like they is not a good culture bit match

[00:38:00] I was great with the sales people in the US. That's why

[00:38:03] It was successful for the time that it was but just from a

[00:38:07] Cultural I'm just too out going to yeah

[00:38:12] And also their HR is probably 25 years behind our HR

[00:38:16] Um, I'm gonna say 100 years but yes

[00:38:21] I mean we just define it differently. How about that? I don't think it's behind or ahead

[00:38:24] I think it's just to find differently there

[00:38:26] That's more and more

[00:38:28] Is better said but it's a um that was a really great thing

[00:38:33] To do and then I went to work for a public south software business

[00:38:37] Because I really loved the CEO who had who had been a CEO at

[00:38:42] People soft before the Oracle

[00:38:44] Purchase of people soft

[00:38:46] Right he worked with um another executive at people's off at the time

[00:38:50] Dave Duffield who as you know is the CEO and president at work day

[00:38:53] right

[00:38:55] And um, they were BFFs

[00:38:57] Uh, and so I went to work for

[00:38:59] Mike's south software business

[00:39:01] And it ended up as

[00:39:03] Client number one at work day

[00:39:06] Wow

[00:39:08] That's really fun

[00:39:10] That's like 2007

[00:39:11] Yeah, that was one time ago

[00:39:14] So we could just call the payroll there's no such thing

[00:39:16] Right right right. There's nothing else

[00:39:19] That was a lot of fun deploying a brand new baby product

[00:39:22] Oh yeah

[00:39:23] Because that was a fully organic build

[00:39:26] Oh yeah

[00:39:28] And uh and the collaboration was really outstanding

[00:39:30] So that's where I cut my teeth on payroll and htm and also just business

[00:39:37] Then unfortunately

[00:39:40] on a software um

[00:39:42] And then uh

[00:39:44] Connoes in the name of the founders dog by the way

[00:39:50] Yeah, Sam Sam Walton's uh Walmart's dog food called is called old Roy

[00:39:54] Right because it's a it's it was his dog

[00:39:58] Totally makes sense okay

[00:40:00] Um, so unfortunately might pass away

[00:40:03] Yeah, and that's where I met Mark Duffel who is our CEO of course at iosalt and

[00:40:07] um, and we were purchased then by private equity business and taken private

[00:40:12] Which is also a really unique HR experience

[00:40:15] um, and then restructure that business to grow and

[00:40:19] Mark Duffel James Northern iso relationship then and

[00:40:23] Mark and David are related or no no no

[00:40:27] uh

[00:40:28] Dave it's Duffield and Mark's also named Duffel

[00:40:31] but we're close

[00:40:34] If you've got a dog I knew there was a well I knew there was another Duffield

[00:40:37] I think you think he buddy I think he's with workday probably yeah

[00:40:42] But there's a so then it was just after the races right you work for private equity

[00:40:47] You get to grow companies for a living you just

[00:40:49] It was a different name at the time wasn't it what Conno

[00:40:53] Oh

[00:40:55] Yeah, um no they started out as a joint venture between excel and kkr

[00:41:01] And then but the but i salt did i solve ever have a different name

[00:41:05] Infinisource yeah, that's what I thought

[00:41:07] Infinisource was the original name and your cobra company

[00:41:11] uh in benefit services and then got a bit of technology

[00:41:16] And have built and it rebranded the whole thing

[00:41:18] I remember that was everything about four years ago and brought everything into the i salt name

[00:41:23] Um but we acquired

[00:41:25] 11 companies before then so genius

[00:41:28] I love the work

[00:41:29] I love the workday story of the particular because

[00:41:31] The lore is is that they had the idea at people's off about doing sss

[00:41:38] But they couldn't figure out how to get both working

[00:41:41] Which oracle and sap also struggled with

[00:41:45] Yes and at the time

[00:41:47] They were like oh that

[00:41:50] Yeah, it's right

[00:41:53] Well everyone was tracking uh

[00:41:56] Binny off at sales force because uh you know he was um but even early on

[00:42:02] It wasn't sased it was cd's and it was a sp

[00:42:05] He was done to the internet

[00:42:06] But it wasn't true sased

[00:42:08] He was the first one to make true sased or one of the first i should say

[00:42:12] But uh i love the fact that it was

[00:42:15] Like that take over take over

[00:42:18] The sale to

[00:42:20] Oracle was not a pleasant experience

[00:42:23] No

[00:42:23] For people of people

[00:42:24] No

[00:42:25] It was not and it was really interesting to be

[00:42:29] For all to all of those stories during that time

[00:42:32] Uh and just be able to talk to the people who are involved like

[00:42:36] Mike and Dave had such incredible

[00:42:39] Stories

[00:42:44] You operate as a business as well right and you try to walk into those pitfalls and try to do

[00:42:50] They all knew each other and wouldn't i mean back in the07 they had a

[00:42:54] They had a non-compete that they had to stick to

[00:42:57] And then but there was still a meal and and Dave there was still kind of

[00:43:01] Thinking and i said plotting and planning that's not really in not in a negative way

[00:43:06] There was just come figure out the next steps

[00:43:08] And when they first came to market

[00:43:10] They weren't going to compete with SAP in Oracle

[00:43:13] That wasn't the initial business model

[00:43:17] They were going mid-marriage they were gonna go below them

[00:43:19] And basically say there's this whole model

[00:43:22] There's this whole market that's untabbed

[00:43:24] There's just complicated for you small

[00:43:27] That's right

[00:43:27] That's right

[00:43:28] Yeah

[00:43:29] And all of a sudden their customers like no but we want you the former customers

[00:43:33] No but we want you up here it's like

[00:43:35] Yeah but we want to solve this problem

[00:43:38] They fought that for like two years

[00:43:40] For like oh nine

[00:43:41] Yeah

[00:43:41] And then I've said it's that i

[00:43:43] All right customers

[00:43:44] They want us to do this

[00:43:46] Yeah

[00:43:46] And then they started competing

[00:43:47] And really crushing Oracle and SAP at the time

[00:43:51] Yeah

[00:43:52] Yeah

[00:43:53] You were there for all that

[00:43:54] It was really fun

[00:43:55] It was a fun time to be in the Bay Area

[00:43:58] It was a fun time to be in this industry

[00:44:01] It's pretty uh pretty interesting as well

[00:44:03] All right

[00:44:04] Go ahead

[00:44:05] I only have one question but Ryan I know you have something to

[00:44:08] You want to ask yours first

[00:44:09] Go for it

[00:44:11] What advice would you give

[00:44:13] I'm gonna say the 21-year-old

[00:44:15] Maybe

[00:44:16] Today

[00:44:17] I'm blowing random

[00:44:19] It's a completely random number

[00:44:20] You could use any number you want

[00:44:21] But advice from you now

[00:44:24] If you're going to have this career in HR

[00:44:26] Fantastic

[00:44:27] Here's the things you should do

[00:44:28] You can see somebody wants to be in HR

[00:44:31] You

[00:44:31] One being HR

[00:44:32] Yes

[00:44:33] Right

[00:44:34] Uh uh and they're 21-years-old

[00:44:37] Me

[00:44:37] Born in the 2000s

[00:44:39] Um

[00:44:40] I

[00:44:42] First of all, I have two sons that follow to this guy

[00:44:44] Good

[00:44:46] I'm gonna say it's that

[00:44:47] Fantastic

[00:44:48] Um

[00:44:49] I

[00:44:50] And they want to be in HR

[00:44:52] Yeah

[00:44:53] I tend to start with asking questions

[00:44:54] Instead of giving them advice

[00:44:56] Because I feel like they can come to their own conclusion

[00:44:58] This is very important to me

[00:44:59] But I

[00:44:59] You know, they ask them a few questions about why

[00:45:02] Yeah

[00:45:03] Like

[00:45:05] Any industry is hard

[00:45:07] Because of the people industry

[00:45:08] Where it's never going to be a straightforward answer

[00:45:11] You're never going to be able

[00:45:12] To give the ABCs and 123s of this

[00:45:14] I can't tell you how to be successful

[00:45:15] Because

[00:45:16] I don't even know

[00:45:18] Uh

[00:45:18] You know

[00:45:18] You're

[00:45:19] The only

[00:45:20] Thing that's constant is change

[00:45:22] And you're helping

[00:45:23] The only demographic

[00:45:26] That impacts your business

[00:45:27] Randomly

[00:45:29] On the daily

[00:45:30] Right like everyone is their own selves

[00:45:32] And they bring their own

[00:45:34] Brand of crazy to the

[00:45:35] To work right and you

[00:45:37] Are navigating that

[00:45:38] Helping the business to navigate that

[00:45:40] So

[00:45:41] You know why do you want to do this

[00:45:42] One point you'll have an employee

[00:45:44] Right

[00:45:46] No worry

[00:45:47] At one point you have an employer

[00:45:49] And it's like you're talking about

[00:45:51] Discrits

[00:45:52] And you don't have to navigate

[00:45:53] Oh

[00:45:56] You have to navigate that

[00:45:57] Bring that back in order

[00:45:59] Bring it back

[00:45:59] Within the

[00:46:01] The guard rails of the handbook

[00:46:02] So uh yeah

[00:46:04] So I think I

[00:46:05] I tend to ask more questions in that scenario

[00:46:08] Especially when I get like a little

[00:46:09] A focus group together or something

[00:46:10] Again for

[00:46:11] Yeah

[00:46:11] And just talk

[00:46:12] Talk a little bit about

[00:46:13] What's their why

[00:46:15] Because once you realize what your why is

[00:46:17] You can

[00:46:19] Formulate almost any career around it

[00:46:21] Right

[00:46:21] We find that that's interesting

[00:46:23] So if people

[00:46:24] Really interesting to you if

[00:46:27] If the industry that you're in is really

[00:46:29] Interesting you and you feel

[00:46:31] Interesting to you feel like you can

[00:46:33] Impact that through people

[00:46:35] That's probably where you go

[00:46:37] With something like this instead of

[00:46:39] Like you're really great at talking to people

[00:46:40] Great your do make a great HR person

[00:46:43] Or

[00:46:43] You're really getting

[00:46:45] Great you be great HR person

[00:46:47] You're a people person

[00:46:49] Yes

[00:46:50] Given the HR

[00:46:52] Yeah

[00:46:54] You think that I've been sick

[00:46:55] That's more successful

[00:46:57] Because of my aptitude toward

[00:46:58] Business savvy

[00:47:00] Yeah

[00:47:01] My aptitude toward being able to communicate

[00:47:04] And I think that's true to most people

[00:47:06] That we've spoken with

[00:47:08] They've taken kind of a

[00:47:10] Crazy path

[00:47:11] They they didn't graduate and get in the

[00:47:13] Something going the recruiting

[00:47:15] They were investment bankers

[00:47:16] Or they were

[00:47:17] You know engineers or something

[00:47:19] And they've learned the business

[00:47:21] End of something

[00:47:22] Which then drove them into

[00:47:24] In the HR which is interesting

[00:47:26] All right, so for my last question

[00:47:27] I want to make you think a bit on this one

[00:47:29] So I'm going to go the opposite way

[00:47:32] Of William

[00:47:33] So William wants to know what your older self

[00:47:34] Would tell your younger self

[00:47:37] What does 10 year old Amy

[00:47:39] Tell the Amy of today

[00:47:41] To remember as she's going through her career

[00:47:44] 100% have confidence

[00:47:46] You're doing the right thing

[00:47:47] It doesn't matter what you're doing

[00:47:48] It's the right thing for you in that very moment

[00:47:50] Like I have a lot of anxiety about making around decisions

[00:47:54] Right

[00:47:55] It's paralyzing

[00:47:57] And I feel like it just

[00:47:59] Have if you're just fearless

[00:48:02] You'll get further faster

[00:48:04] Oh

[00:48:05] Keep that 10 year old dream alive

[00:48:07] Absolutely

[00:48:09] Absolutely

[00:48:10] I love that

[00:48:11] Today I feel like I could do anything

[00:48:13] Bring it

[00:48:13] All right

[00:48:14] Right

[00:48:15] Maybe

[00:48:16] Whatever it is

[00:48:18] I will handle it

[00:48:20] You know it doesn't it doesn't

[00:48:22] Spays me at all

[00:48:23] Bring the crazy

[00:48:24] The weird

[00:48:25] And workable work for effective personal

[00:48:27] Whatever it does not matter

[00:48:29] And I feel like if

[00:48:31] I would have known that then

[00:48:33] That I'm so capable

[00:48:35] That I would have moved further faster

[00:48:37] I'm taking on more

[00:48:38] And

[00:48:40] Not that that would have

[00:48:41] Change

[00:48:41] Like I love where I am today

[00:48:43] Yeah

[00:48:44] With it

[00:48:45] But

[00:48:47] Great advice

[00:48:48] And this is also great advice to

[00:48:51] You know, to

[00:48:52] Amulet

[00:48:53] For the rest of the folks that look up to you

[00:48:55] But also your kids

[00:48:57] And cousins and things like that

[00:48:59] It's like no

[00:48:59] This would just have confidence to go

[00:49:02] Yeah

[00:49:02] You figure it out a long way

[00:49:03] Yeah I try

[00:49:05] My my sons are not as motivated

[00:49:07] As I was at that age

[00:49:10] I've got to say

[00:49:12] All of our children

[00:49:13] Interesting

[00:49:14] It's easy for them

[00:49:15] It's a 100% my fault

[00:49:17] Oh no

[00:49:18] My wife

[00:49:19] My wife and I

[00:49:20] My wife and I talked about this last night

[00:49:23] Literally

[00:49:24] It's like

[00:49:25] Why?

[00:49:26] Why did we do that?

[00:49:27] We're

[00:49:27] We're going to spend the rest of our lives

[00:49:28] With all these regrets

[00:49:30] Grads

[00:49:30] Yeah

[00:49:31] So yeah

[00:49:32] So yeah

[00:49:33] I'm fully enabling this to happen

[00:49:35] And

[00:49:36] You know what right now

[00:49:37] I'm okay with it

[00:49:38] We'll see

[00:49:39] But here's the cool thing

[00:49:40] And here's how I

[00:49:41] Here's how I've reconciled this

[00:49:43] They're going to be the bounce back

[00:49:45] And then their kids are going to have to do everything

[00:49:49] Yes

[00:49:50] My kids gave me everything

[00:49:52] You're going to have to learn how to

[00:49:53] You're going to move the grass

[00:49:54] You're going to bleed

[00:49:55] Oh you're going to do that

[00:49:56] You're going to be up

[00:49:58] Exactly

[00:49:59] Yeah

[00:50:00] So what we've created

[00:50:01] Is then

[00:50:02] Going to then create something

[00:50:03] It's going to bounce back

[00:50:04] So

[00:50:05] Create a better separation

[00:50:06] And we'll be dead

[00:50:07] So it'll be okay

[00:50:09] Yeah

[00:50:09] I hope I get some grandkids to take care of me

[00:50:12] That's all I can

[00:50:13] Like

[00:50:14] bounce back

[00:50:15] With that

[00:50:16] Comeration

[00:50:17] I need somebody who's going to take care of me

[00:50:18] Because it's not going to be my kids

[00:50:20] I can hear it

[00:50:21] I'm already looking at homes

[00:50:23] At this point

[00:50:24] I'm just like

[00:50:24] You know what

[00:50:25] We all are the different

[00:50:26] Things that does just figure it out

[00:50:28] And like goes

[00:50:29] Like handles it

[00:50:30] Right

[00:50:31] Yeah

[00:50:32] Long-term care

[00:50:33] Go ahead and get you a home

[00:50:34] Go ahead and get things set up

[00:50:35] To where you just have transitions

[00:50:37] Like

[00:50:38] To do an address

[00:50:39] We're good

[00:50:39] Just people that are on

[00:50:41] I can play shuffleboard

[00:50:43] It's okay

[00:50:44] This is as well

[00:50:45] So there's hope

[00:50:46] Oh, there is hope there

[00:50:47] Big goal

[00:50:48] You nailed it there

[00:50:49] Wow

[00:50:50] That's right

[00:50:50] I'm just

[00:50:51] Just do something for me

[00:50:56] Ryan's got three girls

[00:50:57] He has a half a chance

[00:50:58] Oh

[00:50:59] He has half a chance

[00:51:01] No

[00:51:03] My boys

[00:51:04] They leave this

[00:51:05] There

[00:51:05] Go

[00:51:07] No, I think

[00:51:07] I think they'll love me again

[00:51:09] When they need help

[00:51:10] And they realize that the world isn't so nice

[00:51:12] To them

[00:51:13] Yeah, I think

[00:51:13] Right now

[00:51:14] I'm like you Amy

[00:51:15] I've enabled this whole thing

[00:51:16] My wife

[00:51:17] And we

[00:51:17] We were talking about it

[00:51:18] Because I'm like

[00:51:20] Is it disrespectful?

[00:51:22] What they're doing

[00:51:23] Or did we allow

[00:51:24] No, it's all of us

[00:51:25] It's like

[00:51:26] We've allowed

[00:51:27] For this

[00:51:28] See, you know

[00:51:29] Right

[00:51:29] It's true

[00:51:30] We have been allowed to tap in

[00:51:32] And my parents would have never allowed this to happen

[00:51:34] I know

[00:51:35] And

[00:51:36] Oh

[00:51:37] No

[00:51:38] No

[00:51:38] That's good about her and different

[00:51:40] It's just

[00:51:40] It's different

[00:51:41] But you know what, their kids

[00:51:42] Our grandkids are going to be fantastic

[00:51:45] Because they're going to have to learn

[00:51:46] To do all kinds of stuff

[00:51:48] That's incredible

[00:51:48] I'm going to raise my grandkids

[00:51:49] Because we're

[00:51:52] We're building a better generation

[00:51:54] Exactly

[00:51:55] Exactly

[00:51:56] I love our justifying this

[00:51:57] Like

[00:51:59] Why the heck

[00:52:01] It might be two generations away

[00:52:02] But it's coming

[00:52:04] It's coming

[00:52:05] We're doing

[00:52:06] This is what we've done

[00:52:08] We've done all the wrong things

[00:52:10] And

[00:52:11] Well, but and our kids are going to be completely horrible

[00:52:13] All right, but good news is

[00:52:15] Is they're going to have kids

[00:52:16] Not offspring

[00:52:17] Those kids are going to have to learn everything

[00:52:19] Funny

[00:52:19] Yeah

[00:52:20] So there you go

[00:52:22] Thank you so much

[00:52:23] We know you've got to get on to your next thing

[00:52:24] You got like a job

[00:52:25] And you can't deal with

[00:52:26] People that people that hit

[00:52:28] Get safety injuries and showers

[00:52:30] No

[00:52:33] That's a pretty good

[00:52:35] That's in the handbook

[00:52:37] It's not your

[00:52:37] Gentlemen

[00:52:40] I think it's just me

[00:52:42] Any morning

[00:52:42] I'll give you the new

[00:52:43] The music we update

[00:52:44] Nice

[00:52:45] I kind of feel like

[00:52:46] This is a LinkedIn series

[00:52:48] Just every day

[00:52:49] Updates for Amy

[00:52:50] Here's the thing

[00:52:51] Here's the thing

[00:52:52] Nice

[00:52:52] Thank you so much

[00:52:53] We appreciate you

[00:52:54] Thank you