By HR for HR

By HR for HR

HR Without the Fluff

By HR, For HR is a podcast hosted by VirgilHR CEO Jocelyn King that brings practical insights from HR leaders on recruiting, performance management, compliance, leadership, AI, and more. Each episode shares real-world lessons you can apply immediately to elevate your organization and strategy.

#15 - Jen Miller: Bridging Leadership and Strategy
By HR for HRApril 30, 2026
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#15 - Jen Miller: Bridging Leadership and Strategy

Join us in this enlightening episode of HRHR as we dive into the intricacies of leadership and strategy with Jen Miller, founder of Leading Edge. With a rich background as an HR leader, Jen shares her journey from corporate HR to establishing her own company focused on developing effective leadershi...

#14 - Angela Cheng-Cimini: The Triumvirate - Aligning the CEO, CFO, and CHRO
By HR for HRApril 09, 2026
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#14 - Angela Cheng-Cimini: The Triumvirate - Aligning the CEO, CFO, and CHRO

Jocelyn King sits down with Angela Cheng-Cimini, a 30-year HR veteran and current Chief People Officer at the Chronicle of Philanthropy. Angela shares her journey from full-time leadership at Harvard Business Review to fractional work, offering a masterclass on what CEOs truly expect from their HR l...

#13 - Tony Buffum: The Human Cloud - Driving the Future of Flexible Work
By HR for HRMarch 26, 2026
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#13 - Tony Buffum: The Human Cloud - Driving the Future of Flexible Work

Tony Buffum, co-founder of The Human Cloud, joins host Jocelyn King to discuss the inevitable shift toward flexible work and the "freelance economy". Reflecting on his time at Upwork and Stanley Black & Decker, Tony explores why many HR professionals resist non-traditional staffing—citing fears of c...

#12 - Tami Nutt: Rethinking the Blank Page - How Analysts Bridge the Gap in HR
By HR for HRMarch 12, 2026
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#12 - Tami Nutt: Rethinking the Blank Page - How Analysts Bridge the Gap in HR

Tami Nutt, Vice President of Research and Insights for Aspect 43, shares how her 20-year career as an HR practitioner informs her current work as an industry analyst. She explains how analysts provide unbiased evaluations of technology and market trends, helping busy HR professionals connect the dot...

#11 - Kimberly Prescott: Facts Over Emotion - Mastering Tough Conversations and Investigations
By HR for HRFebruary 26, 2026
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#11 - Kimberly Prescott: Facts Over Emotion - Mastering Tough Conversations and Investigations

Kimberly Prescott, founder of Prescott HR, joins the podcast to discuss the critical role of courage and confidence in the HR profession. Drawing from her background in the Air Force and her experience as a minority in corporate environments, Kimberly explains why HR professionals must move past the...

#10 - Benjamin Langer: ROI or Storytime? Mastering the Language of the C-Suite
By HR for HRFebruary 19, 2026
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#10 - Benjamin Langer: ROI or Storytime? Mastering the Language of the C-Suite

Jocelyn King sits down with Benjamin Langner to discuss the profound shifts currently hitting the HR profession, which he compares to the era when email first revolutionized communication. As a Vice President for a global recruitment process outsourcing (RPO) organization, Ben acts as "HR for 1,000 ...

#9 - Erica McMannes: Tapping into the 12 Million, The Power of the Military Spouse Workforce
By HR for HRFebruary 12, 2026
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#9 - Erica McMannes: Tapping into the 12 Million, The Power of the Military Spouse Workforce

Erica McMannes, Chief Experience Officer at Instant Teams, joins the podcast to share her expertise in building high-performing, fully distributed workforces. Having moved 14 times as a military spouse, Erica founded Instant Teams to create a talent marketplace that connects companies with the highl...

#7 - Joel Greenwald: Preventative Medicine: Employment Law, Misclassification, and AI Liability
By HR for HRJanuary 29, 2026
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#7 - Joel Greenwald: Preventative Medicine: Employment Law, Misclassification, and AI Liability

Employment law is often reactive, but Joel Greenwald argues for a "preventative medicine" approach to protect businesses before litigation strikes. In this episode, Joel breaks down the most common legal pitfalls HR leaders face, including inadequate documentation and the rampant misclassification o...

#5 - Joey Price: HR as the Operating System: Strategy, Data, and Diplomacy
By HR for HRJanuary 15, 2026
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#5 - Joey Price: HR as the Operating System: Strategy, Data, and Diplomacy

In this episode of By HR For HR, host Jocelyn King sits down with Joey Price to discuss the evolution of the HR professional from administrative support to the "operating system" of modern business. Joey shares insights from his journey as an HR consultant and author, explaining why HR leaders must ...

#4 - John Baldino: Stop Measuring "Time to Hire" and Start Monetizing Vacancy
By HR for HRJanuary 08, 2026
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#4 - John Baldino: Stop Measuring "Time to Hire" and Start Monetizing Vacancy

John Baldino, President of Humareso, joins us live from HR Tech 2025 to discuss the evolution of the industry, from the days of "Personnel" and manual payroll to today’s data-driven people analytics. John challenges HR leaders to stop obsessing over "time to hire" and start calculating the real cost...