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In this episode of Talentless, we’re joined by Victoria Gates and Lorna Erickson; co-founders of Expert Interviewers and hosts of the Don’t Tell Me About Yourself podcast to unpack a truth many companies don’t want to hear:

Interviewing isn’t broken because of AI… it was already broken. AI is just exposing it.

From gut-based hiring decisions to untrained interviewers and wildly inconsistent processes, we dig into what’s actually going wrong and what it takes to fix it.

We cover:

  • Why most interviews are just opinion collection, not evidence collection

  • How AI is forcing companies to confront nonexplainable hiring decisions

  • The dangerous reliance on “gut feeling” (and why it feels so good but fails so often)

  • The difference between “can they do the job?” vs. “do they actually want the job?”

  • Why hiring managers are often the weakest link in the process

  • The real cost of a bad hire (spoiler: it’s way more than salary)

  • How to identify where your interview process is breaking using data

Plus:Ashley breaks down how to diagnose a broken hiring funnel using pass-through rates, and introduces one of the most underrated concepts in hiring: assessing the assessor.


  • AI isn’t breaking hiring it’s exposing bad processes

  • Most companies still don’t train interviewers (and it shows)

  • Gut feeling ≠ valid hiring criteria

  • Transparency with candidates is now non-negotiable

  • Interviewing is a leadership skill not an assumption

  • If your process isn’t explainable, it’s not defensible

Victoria GatesHas hired 1,500+ people and specializes in helping leaders refine interviewing and better respect candidate time.

Lorna EricksonSpent nearly 20 years studying what actually works in interviewing, with 5,000+ interviews analyzed and global training experience.

Together, they founded Expert Interviewers to bring structure, consistency, and sanity back to hiring.

Key Takeaways About Our Guests Website: https://expertinterviewers.com Podcast: Don’t Tell Me About Yourself Social: @expertinterviewers

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