Payroll Conversations w/ Tabitha Brown (Episode 89)

[00:00:04] Hailing from Eden North Carolina, Tabitha Brown, America's mom, is an embodiment of positivity and wellness. She has captured the hearts of millions with her soothing voice and life-affirming content, the American actor and social media sensation.

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[00:00:37] and recipes, but also serves the generous helpings of inspiration and personal empowerment. Tabitha Brown's 4-ray into the public eye is not confined to social media. Her talents have flourished in the realm of acting with numerous appearances that showcase her versatility.

[00:00:58] She's an acclaimed author with a best-selling book, beating the soul because it's my business, touching lives through its candid exploration of the human experience, veganism and self-care. Her infectious enthusiasm and sage advice have earned her the prestigious NAACP Image Award

[00:01:17] for outstanding social media personality emphasizing her impact as a cultural influencer. She's a passionate advocate for plant-based living, brown advocacy extends beyond her words, shaping the market with her own line of seasoning plans, her own clothing that mirror her ethos of health and happiness.

[00:01:39] From hosting, reducing to voicing characters that charm audiences, her achievements are as varied as they are impressive. Tabitha Brown is much more than a media personality. She's a beacon of hope and a testament to the power of living with intention, demonstrating

[00:01:57] that with kindness and passion one can indeed feed the soul how are you today Tabitha? Thank you for joining us. Thank you. That was a good day. Thank you, Pan. Thank you, Pan. Yes. Oh, gosh. Yes. Again, it's such a pleasure to honor for us.

[00:02:15] And again, we really connected to the interview, her and your leisure. And we saw those business parts come out. And that's what we want to focus on today because our show was learning about the payroll

[00:02:26] part of it and some paychecks just the money, making money as an owner as an employee. And we empower those folks to learn a little bit more to better do their job. So our questions are going to really revolve around that. And we're curious about that.

[00:02:42] If you folks are curious about more about Tabitha, please go check her out. Her website is IMTabithaBround.com. So the first one is, and it's the statement that we connected to, right? Because we have the T-shirt that we'll go on as our saying trust, but verify. Right?

[00:02:59] But you said I love you, but I don't trust you. And we want to know, like how do you live that out on a day to day with your team? How does that really look on a day to day basis? It has levels, right? Well, I'm from.

[00:03:15] I'll tell you, Carolina, and I didn't come from length. And everything that I have, me and my husband, we had to work bare hard for work. And so when you start from the bottom literally and work your way and create this own

[00:03:30] or your own foundation and your own success. And when that money comes, you guard that, right? And I want to check every balance. And I'm checking. And the thing about it is that it's not necessarily a person in particular that I don't trust, it's in a hole.

[00:03:51] When it comes to my mind, it's like me and my husband, I trust. That's a great thing. It's all that who does not have my personal will be, right? If my personal will be is not their passion, I can't trust you. That means you could take for me.

[00:04:10] And I've had people over the years who've done that, who've been taking for me, tried to take for me were not honest. And those were the things that caused me to really be more guarded when it comes to finance this, right?

[00:04:26] And then also, and I think I shared this, I watched Steve Harvey already, Lee Jones. That man was supposed to be in pain. He's sad to see never understand them saying things. That's right. And I want to go to jail. I want to have to pay no debt.

[00:04:39] So you just have to be mindful. Also when you're making so much money, all of a sudden it's coming from multiple strings, you gotta watch it. Because they look at them and say, oh, they've been a teacher this stream of income. Yes, I am. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[00:04:57] I'm checking that one at three o'clock. Okay, but it's going to get cheap. I'm looking at everything. So my team knows that and I have an amazing team. And I replace people, I move people around until it gets right. And so I have an amazing business manager.

[00:05:14] And she knows I love her dearly. But she also knows, to have no trust you. Girl, you know I love you girl. But girl, you know I'm gonna trust you. I need to know further now, I can see you.

[00:05:23] I gotta, I'm going check, I'm going check the gate every day. And because I do have a gift. I remember I woke up in the middle of the night when it was made like midnight to maybe one in the morning.

[00:05:37] I sat up in the bed and I said, I felt money, leave my account. I literally felt it in my sleep. I woke up, checked my account and there was a large, I say very large amount of money. They had just disappeared from my account.

[00:05:55] I called her, woke up. I said, honey, I'm checking my account. And this money is missing. I said, it woke me up at my sleep. And she was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. We forgot to email you, we pay taxes today. We did it early.

[00:06:10] And I know we had talked about it because we meet every Friday to go over all my books, every Friday and I miss it and Friday. And she was like, and I know we talked about it last week but I didn't see you there

[00:06:18] for a monitor that we were gonna do it. This day, I said, oh okay, so just know, it woke me up. Honey, the money woke me up at my sleep. That's how I communicate.

[00:06:29] And I'm so honest with my people, I'd be like, I need to know and also I need to know how much I'm gonna make, how much is coming out, who needs to be paid? I want to see everybody in those there. It's no secret about it with respect.

[00:06:44] Right? You know, all do respect and I be like, what all of you respect for me. I'm gonna provide a way to take care of my family. Right? And I have a huge family that I'm also taking care of as well.

[00:07:01] It just has to be honest, conversation and I'll mind it. People will tell you all the time, and it's yeah, don't mind it's not my whole mind. That's right. That's right. You all know, right? So that's really, that's where they came from.

[00:07:13] And I hope it pretty to be that way. But I don't ever want to get to comfortable there. I don't check if you know my name. Hey man, I'm a thank you for sharing that. That's awesome. Now, the perfect segue because you made another statement.

[00:07:29] But when you were in Miami and you called Daddy and he said, hey, I'm wasting your money. Do you feel like you understood the value of money early on? Because that seems like really mature for a college student. Absolutely. I understood the value of how it worked. Right?

[00:07:46] Being a work bearer or a ninth grade education, working in the me of his whole life. 48 years. Not only in his 12 days of work, in 48 years. Oh my God. Right there, the care is staying. He was a hard worker.

[00:08:00] And I knew that me even going to college in Miami was a big deal for my family. And it was I had to get financial aid. But I also, the things that financial aid didn't cover.

[00:08:12] I knew my daddy had to get money out to make sure I had it. And that's what I was thinking about. And I was like, man, my daddy worked too hard for me to be down here and knowing that this is not it.

[00:08:21] It's not where it's going to be. It's where it's going to be. And I'm a baby's girl, right? Yeah. My first job was with my daddy and my granddaughter taking the trash and the churches or cleaning up at the video of graphics or at the post office, right?

[00:08:35] And I'm saying I'm like six a seven. Oh my gosh. So we learned early how to work and how to clean and do all these things which were like second and third jobs that my my daddy and my granddaughter had it. Wow.

[00:08:47] And so I was like, I didn't even get any away from my daddy. That's right. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, so that's where they came from. Thank you. So as far as when you became the employer, how did you come to the conclusion that you were

[00:09:04] going to pay your employees the way you were going to pay them? You don't have to get into the details of that. But what was that challenging? Was that exciting for you or does it get in your nerves? Like, how does that feel for you?

[00:09:17] I love to less people. It's like one of my most favorite things and being in entertainment but also have working in corporate, I worked in corporate America for years and they are similar in ways with different ways, right? Similar in there's different levels.

[00:09:35] As an actor, I did extra work. That's the bottom, right? That's how they classify you it about you only get to eat with the main thing. Right? You eat last. I hated it. I always hated it.

[00:09:47] And I always say when I get into a position of power where I can make a decision and change, I'm never going to treat my people that way. Same as working in like call center. Customers service, you at the bottom, then there's a code, then there's an assistance

[00:10:01] to provide. So then there's a supervisor, then there's a manager, right? I used to just always see that and say, I want the way that people work is how they're treated. I just knew that I wanted to treat people well and whatever I can afford to give.

[00:10:17] If it doesn't hurt me, I want to give a little bit more than what I can afford, right? Because that's the way they, oh, I can afford to do this but you can also afford to

[00:10:26] bless on top of which you can afford if I can't I want to do that. There's different ways I have some people who are on salary and they get benefits and all the things.

[00:10:37] Then I have some people that I don't necessarily need you on salary, I need you sometimes so then I pay them a day rate but I'm always paying people enough to wear their excited to come and do the job.

[00:10:50] That makes me feel well about what I'm doing and a lot of people come to me like A-tay on us. People will be paying this out and I'm like, oh, that's me. That's good.

[00:11:00] I hope is then you will feel my love for you and my appreciation because I know that there's a million jobs in the world but you can just add it to come and work with me.

[00:11:10] That work for me, work with me and so I'm grateful for that and so I'm just always wanting to show people that and then you can do that in multiple ways but the way this world works, I'm a juvenile family. Yes, yes, yes.

[00:11:25] I do it for those different ways. Good. Good. Thank you for sharing that. And no earlier you said that you're highly involved with the books and your financials. Is that also the same when it comes to any federal or state laws revolving pay?

[00:11:43] Are you involved in those two? Or do you leave that to the people that you hired on your team to handle most things? I leave that to the people, however, like when it comes to say, let's say like with

[00:11:54] a minimum wage increase is right, those are the laws and we have them out. But I had my restaurant but in California, it was an increase that was happening in that January. I think it was like it went like maybe $15 or $14.75.

[00:12:08] I came to remember exactly now and I was like we got to make sure we own this. I don't know. Oh no man's coming back from them because there are some places where their wage is they pay that minimum.

[00:12:19] Three or four dollars because they're like, oh you get tickets. I'm like, no, we're going to get, you know, $17 an hour or $15 an hour whatever that minimum is and they have their tickets. Right?

[00:12:30] That's just to me only fair because what are some days a lot of customers don't come in and they don't get them to you. That's right. How's the matter going to survive, especially this way it's going to be expensive.

[00:12:40] But those type of things I absolutely know about, they'll email me the updates. I have an HR person on my team but then I also have my business manager, I have my attorneys and they tabbed on one of being nobody's truck.

[00:12:53] I'd be like, y'all let me know what I need to know but I have them multiple businesses. You did do you have to have a team that you can trust to do their job to do those things? Thank you. Thank you. So now you mentioned a notebook, right?

[00:13:06] You use a notebook but do you have you leverage technology as well to help you with managing all this and do you keep the notebook to keep it honest? I use my phone every time everybody does.

[00:13:19] Some studios are there and my notes are there but tab, literally when I say I use notebooks. Or oh my desk because this is a real real life situation. Okay, I keep notebooks. So yes, okay that's not wrong with that.

[00:13:37] So you do use the technology as well of course. Okay. And so you mentioned folks have tried and have stolen from how did you catch them? Well, one is Camels. I've been able to see people being dishonest but also just when you look in it information, right?

[00:14:02] If you're checking everything and something is missing, isn't it? I got $3 missing. I don't know when. That's right. That's right. That's right. I had an accountant control to tell me $1 one way could be a million the other. That's right. That's right.

[00:14:18] And then also of his $3 today and tomorrow, the day after that, if you do it every day for a long time and nobody paying attention, it adds up. That's right. So just make sure that I'm always checking.

[00:14:30] I have twice a year where we when it's time to do taxes because I pay them twice a year. And there's a printout, even though we go through it every Friday, I still get a printout of every transaction and I read mine. I go through.

[00:14:47] It takes me days and they know I'm a doer. And then sometimes they come and I have to consider you, the lesser that they say, but we're going to go through it together. But I just have to do that to have peace.

[00:14:58] And that's not just about this trust, but it's also, I want to make sure I'm doing things right. You can start of excellence, yeah. And I also still approve every transaction. Right if there's something that needs to be paid, they have to email me and say,

[00:15:13] okay, this amount of money we need to pay for this company or this person, you're going to pay it until I say it is approved. Yeah. Wow. Wow. I guess another question I had, it was in the earlier leisure episode.

[00:15:29] You made a statement and it stuck out to me. You said, when you're not free, you look down on others. Right. And I know what that represented. But how has that helped you as the business owner and employer in regard to your employees?

[00:15:44] Because you mentioned it earlier, you're not working for me. You're working with me. So that seems to me like that you live by what you speak. Yeah. Freedom is the best gift we can give to us in, right? The alertness and awareness to know that we are free.

[00:16:01] There's a lot of times, we don't realize that we are because we have conformed in working for someone else at a survival, right? I did it. A lot of us do them. Coastwisions to be in one way, it work and be in three at home.

[00:16:17] And I always encourage my people to be free all the time, right? And when I see that they aren't, I encourage you. We have a conversation about it because the one thing I hate is that when a person is

[00:16:31] closed in, they can't really perform to the best of their abilities. Right? Now you're not even free to think for yourself. You're trying to think what they want me to do instead of what do you think is the right thing to do? What are your ideas telling you?

[00:16:45] Don't think about what I want. There's a reason that we hire people because we believe in them and you're this why I hire people. I see something special in you that I think could be amazing with me. I think that you can bring something amazing to the table.

[00:17:02] And so kindly remind them of that without judging it, without making them feel bad about it. But just saying hey, you're pretty, you do this your way. There's certain guidelines that we all have to do things on when it's a certain project.

[00:17:16] But you still have to bring you to it. And so be free in that. So I'm always encouraging and reminding my people to do that. I'm never going to be like, I'm not like a micro manager except you know my money. I'm not a micro manager. Right?

[00:17:34] Not a people. I want people to be free. I have a girl who works with me and she's amazing. And she has come out of her shell so much in the last year from just working together. And she talks about it.

[00:17:48] She's like, I just feel even more free. I feel so amazing even from cutting my hair. I'm just feeling free to do that we act to having a conversation about it when we were

[00:17:57] on tour and to see her do that and just to see her kind of just be a new light. It's inspiring to me. I'm inspired by people every day and especially people that work with me.

[00:18:09] So just encouraging, encouraging other people and hopefully being an example every day for them. That's awesome. Yeah. I had a question on the pay side, right? Have you had to pay other actors yet?

[00:18:25] And if so, I don't know who just more on the sag rules than you have to now comply to different union rules for y'all. Well, my children show a tantan, right? Our certain say guidelines for that.

[00:18:43] I'm absolutely, and then on a personal, like I don't have it, I haven't yet as this is the new year for me that this is what I'm working on doing more movies and TV shows. But I'm excited to be able to do that and give actors jobs.

[00:18:59] But I do a lot of social media stuff where I'd have that act as if I paid them but it's a different bracket. Oh, it doesn't fall on, oh, it doesn't fall on the sag rules. Oh. Oh.

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[00:20:36] So do you believe we get paid what we are worth or what we negotiate? You are never paid what your work. We're priceless. No, not only you pay what you negotiate, but you're paid what you will accept. Yes. Thanks. Okay.

[00:21:01] How do you keep the people that you're in business with or your clients, your sponsors? The folks who are paying you. How do you keep them honest? Oh, you hold them accountable. Right? I keep them honest by being honest. When some don't feel right, I say it.

[00:21:19] If it's not an alignment with who I am, I'm not doing it. And I'm going to tell them, oh, honey, you're back into bed. You always bring it back to them. You never let it go. Right? I used to let it go when I wasn't free.

[00:21:35] I would be like, bam, bam. Besides, I don't feel good, but I need this new. It's, I don't care how much money it is. And this was even before I started really making money, I'm making it all right.

[00:21:47] When I came into this new life and I say new life because I feel like God gave me this second chance and allowing me to take the layers off that I had put on myself. And be who he created me to be.

[00:22:00] I wasn't making money when I first started, but I was being obedient. And I wanted to be who he created me to be. And with that, when all of a sudden it came in, it could be like $500. It could be not life changing money.

[00:22:15] I still didn't accept it if it didn't feel right. It wasn't in alignment. I could say no. Right? And so, when you make a choice to be free and be exactly who you are, that's how you keep other people around you on it.

[00:22:36] And they're not ready to be honest, basically. That's a good one. Thank you. I love that. Thank you. I have been, have adapted the thought of Radical Transparency since we started this week, read a book early on by Ray Dalio principles.

[00:22:52] And we were just like Radical Transparency Radical Honesty and that's helped us, right? Because this time we get into it and we just like, hey, and that honesty keeps it. I don't know, respectful. We're able to get through it because of that. And I love that a lot.

[00:23:05] Another one of those things that we connected with. Now, what all the money talk do you budget? Do you track? Yes, is it important to you? I budget. I have multiple different kinds of savings. I invest, right?

[00:23:23] You have savings for the kids, for my son, trying to wait till he gets to a certain age to expose them to that kind of awareness and money. But we and Chance, like I said, we started in the notebook. We re-budget it. We always have.

[00:23:41] There's also in my mind, my business manager. She be like, perhaps you're not, you're never going to go broke. That's what she felt. This can. I still below and I also see, I like I only make a certain amount of money.

[00:23:57] Okay, if it is more, I don't ever want to lose sight of that, right? I'm so many different documentaries and interviews with people who have millions and they blew it. Hey, blew it. Right? And Chance, we like, we're going to be dead. That's right.

[00:24:17] It's just also humble begins. We've got from eating off their lawn. What? No, we can't. Now, we do have our moms where we splurge and we enjoy live. Orch. You don't do that every day? Yep. Oh, no, honey, that ain't in the budget. We have to work that.

[00:24:33] Chance will say though, if he was here, you would say that I, splurge on others more than I do myself. Because that's also like my, my love language. I love you. I love to receive gifts and it's not about the gift.

[00:24:48] It's because it means I thought of you or you thought of me. Right? And so I do enjoy doing those things more so for other people than I do for myself. But absolutely. That's awesome. Yeah. That made it always think about learning church one time that if you're

[00:25:06] not faithful in the little, you don't deserve a lot. So that that helped keep me and my wife keeps me in line. So she's the realist like she's the pragmatist. She's no real it in, really. Thank you for sharing that.

[00:25:17] And we end up something that we're teaching in the show is that budgeting is important. You got to track to budget. 70% of Americans are live paycheck to paycheck. And look, a listen Malano, I hope it was her for real and not a deep fake.

[00:25:32] But a listen Malano posted something recently. And she was like, hey, actors are falling that group too. She's there's only 1% of high earning actors. The rest of us are paycheck to paycheck.

[00:25:44] So we hurt her now here in this writer's plot and the writers strike and all this stuff. She's at least believe most of us are hurting. That was a eye opener for me because again, you think, hey, listen Malano been on TV for 25 years, 30 years.

[00:25:59] How are you paycheck to pay? Maybe she's not, but she's still being realists about it. You happen, right? Because you got, I think it's 88% don't make 26,000 a year. Of what? Of actors? Yeah, what? Because you got to think background actors.

[00:26:15] There are actors that some of them do that for a living. If all this again, benefits, you gotta make at least 26,000 a year. 88% don't make that. Wow. So that was the eye opener with the strike. That was one of the things.

[00:26:28] And then we, people can't even afford benefits to do what they love. And a lot of people said, well, they just, she go get a regular job or give them another job. A lot of them do work other jobs.

[00:26:39] But also why should they have to do that if the union should be paying them enough, but also giving them benefits. Right? So that's the whole thing. That is crazy. Wow. I think it'd be awesome. Thank you. And then we have a random question.

[00:26:57] And I think I want to ask this because there's an actor or a tick, it's like that. It's a cool, it's a cool segment he does. I forget his name very popular and he like does. He like opens royalty checks. I forgot what he called it.

[00:27:10] But he like, oh, he's, oh, then what is he say? Sizzler or lobster or something like that? What am I eating today with these checks? And I'm like, wait a minute, don't they direct the, wouldn't they direct the positive? So our royalty checks direct the positive?

[00:27:22] Can you get an option? No. Man in there. Holy cow, that's a little archaic. But okay. Your residual checks, they come in the mail. Live check in the mail. I got about to go to deposit. That's crazy. If I see it, then we'll go to like 500,000.

[00:27:41] I was like, oh, God. You did. Yeah, but yeah, they still coming in the mail. That's great. And I saw your IMBD. I'm like, dang, tabling you got a, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little

[00:27:53] little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, a little, some of them, you follow me forever. But gosh, you got so much stuff and I'm like, you get an hour now, I'm going to watch all of it.

[00:28:01] I don't go to the, I, I'll stop with the most recent stuff. Ooh, ooh, and congrats on the shy. The shy was like one of my favorite shows. Love you there. And what do you want to take the last one? Yeah.

[00:28:18] So as a parent, seeing your kids in the workforce has a lot of has the lessons you learned. Have you found yourself trying to protect them or trying to guide them to follow

[00:28:30] the same steps as you have or are you just letting them like, hey, you're on your own. Here you go. Like, how are you handled that as a parent? It's a little bit about, right? Yeah.

[00:28:40] You know, they were here in the home, the Liam, who's my step daughter, and my phone is going to, she's saying with us for a little while after college and then choice, of course, the Nash East 22. And they were here.

[00:28:52] It was a little different because Liam wanted to college and graduate. She wasn't everyone to go to college. So we knew that very early on. She just, school was just not her thing. And so she said she wanted a model. She wanted to do entertainment.

[00:29:05] And I was like, well, I can help you the way I can help you. And so I had created showbeard good Mondays where I had like small businesses every Monday. And so I started that back in like 2019 and I said, listen, every Monday, you're going

[00:29:18] to get on this show with me. And we're going to review in blessed small businesses, review their products. In this way, every week people will get to know your face. They'll start following you. Your numbers will grow and then you can start doing your own brand deals, right?

[00:29:34] And so that's what happened. She started to grow. People started to know her and she, her deals started to come in. And so then I told her, I said, now you don't have to do what mommy does, right? Because I do things differently. I have my own brand.

[00:29:47] You have to be mindful of what kind of brand you want to have. But you have to remember that once you put it out there is out there, right? It's hard to switch and change it once you've created something that people are used to.

[00:30:01] And so she started doing her own deals and she did great. And she still does them. She doesn't do as much. She's now starting to get more interested in the business behind the scenes, my skin care, things like that.

[00:30:15] She posts, you can call me to ask me different questions. And I got her a center at what the business manager is saying way, put her on a budget and she made a lot of them very quick and a very young game.

[00:30:25] And I was like, but you can't get money if you don't have anything else coming in. Get money will soon go away. And so then there also comes a point where they also want to figure it out on there. We have to let them do that.

[00:30:38] And it's the same like with the owners would leave that she wanted to create her own businesses. She was doing like some sportswear and she's athletes. So she was doing different things and I would try to help her as well.

[00:30:48] But then when I would get pushed back, she would not want to do it that way. I had to respect that. I had to respect this. Okay, you do it your way, then, right?

[00:30:59] And if she ran into an issue or problem, I absolutely would help her because a lot of times we have parents where they'll get upset if you don't do it their way. Then they won't help you at all. Right?

[00:31:10] That person, but I will let you go and fail because that's how we learn. That's right. We can see that we go fail, right? We have to fail to learn, right? Because failing is not the end all be all. Failing is a step. It's a step into success.

[00:31:28] And so I always try to give information, but I'm never going to take away their own life experience. They have to have that because the other thing about it is what I know is also changed. There's a new way coming and the younger they are.

[00:31:46] They'll be able to teach me, right? The whole reason for a lot of my success is because my daughter came home from school and told me to watch it a documentary on it. My daughter told me to get on TikTok. I'll TikTok them kids.

[00:32:01] Because when it first came out, it was just like everybody's dance and all. Dance, that's it. And she's the one who told me, no mommy this. You know how you do your videos on Facebook, you can do your same thing on TikTok.

[00:32:11] It's just it's only one minute because this is when it was on 60's and starting to do recipes or you can do inspiration tells and people will love you that you'll be like the TikTok mom. I was like, I don't know my fit. She was right.

[00:32:24] I had to listen to her because she's that young generation they know what's happening also on social media. And within literally the first week I went by and 30 days I had a million followers from

[00:32:35] zero to one million in 30 days and we got to two million and it just kept growing. But it was because I listened to my daughter, right? So we have to encourage them to do it their way with a little bit of guideline but also

[00:32:53] listen to them when they may want to teach us something. Hey man. Wow, that's powerful. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for that. And yeah, that wraps up the business stuff. Thank you so much for sharing with us.

[00:33:05] And I went through similar my daughter just went to, has entered the workforce and we going through it with her too. She's 20 schools not fit in right. She's going to hit, she's a fan as well. She follows you too and she's excited and she's like, oh my God.

[00:33:19] And she talked to that. Was that? This is beautiful. Oh, thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah. Oh, that's right. You remember, she's, oh gosh, she's bigger now. And yeah, I got two more now. So yeah, they're not in the workforce.

[00:33:33] They're like, when she got in, she got scammed interviews. I was like, what? What's happening? I was so mad at the process and she got so discouraged when it's tough. It's so tough for them. That's all I was curious.

[00:33:45] I'm like, oh my gosh, choice is out on the world already. How is he dealing with this? I think his grow up so quick. It's crazy. But we also have to trust that we've done our job. Amen. Yep. There's a bunch of things that we connected to.

[00:34:00] I'm sorry to cut you off. Oh no, that, that. Okay. That we connected to in one of the most like, keep being consistent, right? You said that in the book and that's been our, I think, claim the fame is that no matter

[00:34:12] what I was like, well, one listener or a million, we got to do this every week. We got to be consistent because I promise you that week that we fall off, that people are going to notice, because listeners are going to notice. So that's helped us being authentic.

[00:34:28] That's again, we connected that. It's helped us so much just when it, it's, it's freeing in life. So you know that you're just living on his life and you don't got to, what my mama was

[00:34:39] to tell me, you got to, if you always lie, you got to be real smart to cover all those lies, if you always lie. Right? So that's right. Yeah. What, no goal just to dream, you said, that never minds us to faith without action.

[00:34:52] You've got to do something. And this thing right here that keeps pulling us that we struggle with like, oh my God, life is so hard right now. And my wife was the one that was like, because something big has come and she doesn't even talk like that.

[00:35:05] So that's how I knew I was like, whoa, oh, whoa. Yeah. Thank you, code switching. We did a show about that because man will go through it right? You got to be one way it work and I think it's taken, it's only now that I'm senior

[00:35:19] in my career that it can be more authentic. Maybe that's just how I thought about it. But I felt like I couldn't be authentic coming up in the career because it would stop my growth.

[00:35:30] I was scared to show that I'm a hip hop fan and when I'm, you know, it's the vernacular and like my culture is a hip hop culture. I didn't even understand it was a culture tool. Later on, like why judge me for it?

[00:35:42] So we really connected with that. Oh, how you do anything is how you do everything. What you said with go into it, it made me laugh. When you said, you were always so chance. This is the one. This job is the one. This job is the one.

[00:35:58] But I thought it was. What that told me was you approached it like it was how you do anything is how you do everything and that intake that on that. So that mean a lot. Oh, I found a Facebook page of yours.

[00:36:15] And for you know that, these Facebook page is out there on your name. Okay. It was around the end. And what through it all, because I think I was following it already, it said, Tabitha Brown cooking. But the post they made had beef on the picture.

[00:36:31] And then I went and looked at the recipe. I was like, maybe it's vegan something. And I said, no, I was like, this and I commented, I blocked. I was like, when I reported y'all, dude, I was so mad.

[00:36:44] Another thing that stuck out for me is in your early and the earlier the leader episode, you said that I think it started off with you saying that you were running from the gift. And my mom tells me that all the time. Right.

[00:36:59] Like when someone is, knows they have that on the inside of them, what is the determining factor that they could lean into to just go ahead and just lean into that, lean into that, give lean into that calling, that this on our life.

[00:37:18] What advice could you give them? It is scary, right? For me, I was born that way, all of us thought, but it started happening for me very early, a very young game. And it was scary to think that people thought I was weird or crazy, right?

[00:37:39] And God that my mom knew and always kind of maybe feel okay about it. But I think that as an adult, because I try to pray it away, because it's a heavy burden sometime. It feels like a burden to carry.

[00:37:54] But I think the moment that you realize that it is a gift, right? It is a gift that everyone doesn't have. We all have our own gifts. But this in particular is a special gift. The moment that we realized that we were chosen for that,

[00:38:10] I think it's an easier way to lean into it, right? And the prayer is always for God to make it clear so that we understand the gift and how to use it. For me, I know that if I don't share something,

[00:38:23] once I see it in a drain or see it as I'm talking and sometimes it'll just appear in front of me or out here, if I don't release that to the person, I get sick. Like I get, ah, this, the wrong stance,

[00:38:38] after lay down, I have to get it out of me. It's an obedience. I'll tell people don't wait until that happens. Or if that's already happened, if you're experiencing sickness or weird feelings after you don't relay a message, then that's what it is.

[00:38:56] In order for that sickness to lead, you're gonna have to start being obedient to the girl. So, look, trust but they're five. Trust the girl. But they're five God, this is what you want me to do. And watch how it starts to change it, right?

[00:39:12] Watch how it changes. When you start to be more obedient to it, you can feel yourself a grown more confident, you become more open and it ends in against the increase. Right? And then it doesn't feel like such a burden to care. Now becomes light for you, right?

[00:39:30] In two ways, it feels lighter and you become lighter. That's awesome. Thank you. That's absolutely true. Before we let you get back to your Sunday tab, I have two requests. One, if there's a piece of advice that you could give people

[00:39:44] regarding that money matters, what would it be? And two, if you would honor us with clothes in the show. Absolutely. What it comes to money matters. It does, but it doesn't matter more than this, right? And so, it's how we take care of ourselves

[00:40:04] and it's how we take care of our families. And if we honor ourselves and our families, then we will take care of our men the right way. So, it doesn't matter how much you have or how good we have. And still honor it as, like you said before,

[00:40:22] treat it like it's huge even if it's not yet because you treat you and your family, not their huge, they're your everything. So let's make sure we're good stewards over our money so that we can continue to have it increase

[00:40:36] so that we can continue to be a blessing for our family. Amen. And if you know what I just think of, but having this amazing, this is great. I feel like I went back home for a little bit that you came to eat for a little bit,

[00:40:49] right after I did. Yes, agreed. Agreed. Until the next time, we're going by job as we have the most amazing day. But even if you can't have a good one, don't your dear Gomez and nobody else. So, God bless you. I love you all and I appreciate you.

[00:41:05] I love you too. Thank you so much. As we near the end of this episode, we'd like to extend our heartfelt gratitude to you for listening. Before we sign off, we're a couple of quick thanks. Don't forget to follow it's about payroll,

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