Season 16 in Review

[00:00:02] Welcome back folks. This is a long overdue, it feels like, episode, right? It's about payroll. We've been on a hiatus, I guess you can call it. What's up, Walt?

[00:00:17] Man, just glad to be here, man. I feel like, bro, I'm just always in a whirlwind with how fast time has been moving, man. Like, I feel like the year just got here and the year like halfway through, you know, and it's just surreal right now. Agree, agree. I was telling somebody the date, they were like, you were back in April still. I was like, what? What is name? Oh my gosh. And May's halfway through.

[00:00:47] And May's halfway, literally as of this recording. Yeah, for real. It's going to be Christmas soon. Oh man, come on now. Yeah, but yeah, pretty much. You're right. Shout out to everybody still at Congress or flying back today. Safe travels to all our payroll nerds. Yeah. Loving the pictures and yeah, maybe next year we'll go. It's just always dope. It was a real,

[00:01:14] real treat. Sure. So the first one was the real treat. And I think, I think that was my first, that was my first payroll con, but not my first, my first through pay org, but not my first payroll conference, you know, but pay org is, is definitely a one of a kind type of thing. Like if you're a payroll professional, you should try to get to it one year. Even if your company does not pay for it, it's worth to try to do it. It is, it is, it's an education experience. You can take, you take classes.

[00:01:44] Like it's not just party time, the whole five days. Like you can do, Oh, actually you could do like a Saturday to a sub the next Sunday to really get the entire experience. And like this class is throughout the week. You can, it can actually absolutely be an educational experience. So it can be an investment in yourself. It is, it is a, you know, pretty good lift on expense wise. And, but they do have like

[00:02:09] letters that you can, they have, they have materials that they could help try to convince your company to pay for you. You know? Yeah, absolutely. You can work remotely, you know, like if they mess you, like even if you can't take vacation time, it should, first of all, shouldn't be vacation time. If the company lets you do it, even if you pay on your own, it should not be vacation time. It is a payroll learning period. And you could work from there if you need to, you know what I mean? So it, everyone

[00:02:39] should try to get there at least once in their career type of thing. Yeah. Oh yeah. Right. Good. You're going to learn from it. You're going to grow. Yes. And anything that will pique your interest, you can find something there. You're going to connect with people. And I think that's the biggest thing you're going to have fun too. It's not just going to be like, oh, just like, you know, textbook stuff. Yes. You're going to learn a lot. You're going to grow a lot. You can ask questions, but there's fun activities for you to engage

[00:03:08] as well. And the people are, you know, you know, yes. So a lot of us are nerds or quirky in our own way, but payroll is a lot of fun. We have a lot of great people in payroll. Yeah. Yeah. The exhibit hall is cool. They provide lunch every day in the exhibit hall. So it has the, um, breakfast and dinner you're on your own, you know? So yeah, yeah, definitely good experience. So shout out to everybody that made it. And what I was going to say is like,

[00:03:37] it was really nice because everybody was like, are you going to be there? Yo, let's meet up. Let's meet up. It's really nice to, to see like folks kind of looking out, you know, Tammy from, Tammy and John from payroll, like a boss. Go check it out. It's not up on the shelf here. Cause I'm trying to read it. They were like, we were looking for you last year. You guys weren't there. I was like, and it's like, it's so right. It's humbling. It's like, it's, it's, it's honoring.

[00:04:03] Like the folks are looking out for us and then that's dope. So shout out to everybody. Well, we will definitely be there next year. They, well, dang, well, now you put it into, into the, into the world. So we, now we gotta go. Walt done said it. We will definitely be there next year. We need to start the building fund for it. So yeah. So yeah. So what else folks? What else? That's the payroll news, right? Too for this episode. Look at the beautiful collection of books. If you had a read payroll books yet,

[00:04:34] Nick Day just dropped his book. Max right before that. Haley Patterson, probably a lot before that, but we had on the show earlier in the year feels like right. You know, but it was, and like you said, the years is blowing by payroll. Like a boss is the most recent one. I love the way they just, they did their marketing and promotion. John also has HR like a boss and you know, shameless

[00:05:00] plug. Our book has been updated and reformatted and all the good things. And if you have purchased the book or I don't know, a week ago, please let me know. And I, we will send you a, a new copy because the formatting was off and the content was still the same, but the formatting was all, but if

[00:05:25] you're a stickler like me, like when I first saw, I was just like, no. So we got the formatting updated, right? Got professionals to help us and editing professionals and things like this. And, but you know, you do things on your own, you bootstrap and self-publish and, um, but yeah, we definitely owe you a new copy on us. Just reach out to us. Happy to send it. Even, you know, just reach out to us, period if you

[00:05:50] want. And the digital copy is on sale, $2.99. I dropped the digital price. So make that easy. You know, it's, it's really to share, right? The book purpose is, is to share out with folks. I even updated the cover. This is the author copy. So it has that line, but even updated the cover since this one. And, and this corner here, it says forward by Nick Day, because Nick Day wrote the forward for our book and got payroll nerd on the back. Roy Markson writes the back cover.

[00:06:20] I mean, it's a family affair y'all like gotta keep it out. Right. It's a good, it's a good thing, man. So it's again, yeah, our book is an introduction. I hate saying intro to payroll. How do we better say this? Cause it's when I say intro to payroll, it feels like I'm saying like a class, right? But it's like a, but, but, but it, it truly is. You can say that because, because the book was made

[00:06:45] for those who are just, you know, probably just getting into payroll or those who are interested, particularly in, you know, discovery. Right. It's the discovery. So maybe yeah. Discovery of payroll. Something I gotta find the right term. It's whatever, man. Yeah. So, um, I'm gonna work. Yeah, man. So let's get it going. Let's get it. Yeah. This is a season in review.

[00:07:12] Super late, but better late than never. Oh my gosh. We're about, we, this is Q2 season review, and we're almost done with Q3. We're in the middle of Q3. Right? Yeah. Basically not metal. No. No, we're in Q2 still. Oh yeah. We're in Q2 still. Oh, this is Q1? No. Oh my gosh. Still good though. I love the season in reviews because if you, this is the first episode you

[00:07:41] ever listened to, we're going to give you all the nuggets that you didn't see and watch yet. So start us off, man. What's up? What's up? What we talking about for season one, what'd you like? When you, when you think about season 16, what, what's the first word that comes to mind and why? So groundbreaking is what. Groundbreaking? Okay. Why?

[00:08:08] Yeah. Because we had so many great guests and it, it captured a really pivotal time for the business, right? For us. So yeah. Groundbreaking. Yeah. And I'm sure the details will come out here in the questions. What about you? So for me, I think, I think I just, I keep seeing the word like impactful,

[00:08:36] right? Okay. Yeah. Because, because of the, because of the guests we've had on and the impact they're making. And you know, some of them aren't even in necessarily in payroll, but the impact they're making in their industry or their sector of the world. Right. And, you know, just seeing the impact there, the, the heart they have for people, right. That's, that's what it's about. That's why, you know, I think a lot of us take pride, uh, as, as payroll pros and payroll people,

[00:09:04] because we take pride in the service that we give and what we put out for others. Right. So definitely impactful, man, because what we do is impactful. Right. And so that's, that's what comes to mind, man. I like it. All right. What's the, what's the biggest lesson you personally took from this season? I think, you know, and I've, I've learned this from other seasons as well,

[00:09:28] but I guess it's okay to share this again. Like for me, it's, it's that things are changing rapidly. You know, things are changing the things we talked about, the things we're seeing in the industry, AI is becoming, AI is here becoming more prevalent in different things and, and relevant. relevant. So I, that's what it is for me. I think that's the biggest takeaway for me is that things

[00:09:55] are like really accelerating in certain ways for payroll. I like that. Yeah. I would, I would tend to agree and you know, shameless plug, but AI can't do payroll yet. So go check out our course, the certified payroll technician, where we are teaching folks how to do payroll inside of a payroll system. So sounds like because it is, and you know, we, we just built a really great program. And that was part of why it

[00:10:22] was groundbreaking for me. Cause we rolled that out at the end of this, of this season 16, we rolled out the book, we rolled out pay quests. We rolled out payroll universe as a managed service provider. We rolled out, you know, the CPT course and announced that like payla, you know, and just all these things, the merchandise, like we really just, you know, exploded with the whole, always be launching

[00:10:49] type of thing. Shout out to Melissa. I always mess up your last name. Vistioso. Vistioso. Thank you. Vistioso. Vistioso. Melissa V. We gonna have Melissa V on, she's gonna help us like do a really special episode and we haven't forgotten. I need to reach out to her and let them know, but we haven't forgotten. So, but anyway, yeah, that's, that's, I like it. I like it.

[00:11:15] So next man, like, what was the biggest surprise for you? Just all around. Like, what's something that, you know? Yeah, no, easily cut you off guard. Vistioso. I'll, I'll, how can I say we had a lot of payroll adjacent. What I love about the workforce agility limited series by Cornerstone was we talked to executives

[00:11:41] and customers all about skills, skills, skills, skills, skills, skills. Cornerstone has a wonderful background in learning and development, training, etc. Their LMS is world-class, but they've centered the business now, not just on that, like building upon that, but building upon how everything is moved to the skills economy. So check out

[00:12:06] the limited series called workforce agility, and you can get it wherever you get your podcast. And it's just a wonderful series where we talk to their executives on the shift of why, and also their customers that are using it. So check it out whenever you get a chance. Appreciate it. David Pérez Guests on, right? Jenny Wallace from Melody Advisors Services, Terrence Wright, Christopher Bylon,

[00:12:32] Trent from CotaPay, Melissa Walker, Sound of Benefits, Brian Smith and Eric from, you know, bottom line uh forget i forget the the name of the business forgive me but all all payroll adjacent you know and and great products great services great professionals

[00:12:57] so that was a surprise for me how you know big these payroll adjacent products and services play into payroll and how many of them we had in this one season really yeah you know i yeah i kind of i kind of share that sentiment because we did we had some very interesting guests and you know kudos to them for the the things that they're doing the strides that they're making in their own right

[00:13:23] it's just fascinating to see you know as two people who are you know we've been growing our own thing for so long and it's just like to see those other people you know kind of championing championing champion any okay is that a word champion championing is that a word champion being a champion happy ending you know like you know when it is to like when you want to champion

[00:13:50] something and you like you're speaking to it and like you're basically trying to you know they're out there just selling their brand and pushing their goal and a lot and each one that we spoke to sorry to regurgitate this but each one is just trying to help someone yeah you know at the end of the day and so it's just fascinating people man what which are the topics uh i think we kind of covered

[00:14:16] this one already but was there a conversation that made you rethink how payroll should be done sorry i just wanted to properly shout out brian smith at top to bottom solutions and was there i'm sorry i said again tom was there a conversation yes heck yeah that's an easy one trent from Codapay

[00:14:43] the right the name of that at the title for that episode was the death of the payroll cutoff um that was fascinating yes because he basically introduced us to i mean i think people are used to it it's real-time money movement people people most people are young people for sure you know cash app venmo these type of tools right they are used to moving money in real time so to say like oh you what

[00:15:13] do you mean i gotta wait two three days for payment like that's nuts for them right that's payroll though right you know one of my young clients right now it was was shocked by that because you know he's in the tech business and you know they move money in real time the paypal type situation you know all these services that move money in real time and he and we were installing some structure and you know

[00:15:42] most of your providers is is 48 hours right it's you know yep processing at least 48 hours at least yeah and and the more money you move the more you you really do want that time because you you want to be able to validate move things like you wanna you kind of want that buffer so you know it was kind of culture shocking to him because he's like what do you mean 40 what why gotta wait so long man like

[00:16:11] hey he knows so you can do same day sometimes but anywho codepay trend codepay introduce us to that whole the depth of the cutoff time because there are banks that will move real time but there is a caveat both banks the sender and the receiver have to agree to this setup right it's it doesn't work for

[00:16:37] for payroll specifically because you might say well how does cash app work that's different it doesn't work for payroll because remember payroll you're moving batches of money i'm not gonna say a dollar amount because it could be low dollar you know but it's batches it's 10 20 100 a thousand people getting paid right and you're moving all at one time and it splits from one account to many so when you're

[00:17:06] doing something like that that you know both banks have to agree right that they're gonna do it that way so that was that's the um caveat so yes what about you man so hey am i'm starting to piggyback here on you all with this that one was the big one in that season yeah it was definitely fascinating that and and melissa welker from sounder benefits that like the the way that they're approaching

[00:17:34] benefits in general and yes you know how they're they're looking really their sole purpose and mission is the employee yes you know what i'm saying is to really help educate the employee and so that's that was a breath of fresh air from that standpoint but definitely the windowless payroll that trent talked about man that was for me that was eye opening a game changer because this is like that that will give you more time to audit to catch different things yes and like if you don't wait

[00:18:02] until like the day of or the day before to actually push the the payment through or same day like say hey payments are gonna hit boom this is the time it's gonna hit today there we go you know what i'm saying like so it's that it blew my mind and then that that was pivotal pivotal for payroll processors in my opinion right and so what about the next question well i just want to say what melissa what stood

[00:18:28] out also is that she's also saving her clients money right she's able to do both yes right i think she'd be like one of her big cases like saving a client like 19 on increases and benefits which in a time where benefits is just going up nobody's seeing savings but even no increase or a lower increase is what she's doing right so in a time where it's just skyrocketing increases she's minimizing or

[00:18:55] not i think it's an increase on her clients so go look out for a sounder benefits if you guys need a a new benefit solution if your broker is not helping you save money give them the boo call melissa yeah so the next one let's see what's what's one payroll myth you feel like we finally helped break this season

[00:19:18] look it's it's definitely going back to the code of pay for me like because i and i'll speak more to that because i've just been used to having to process by tuesday wednesday at the latest to guarantee direct deposits for employees right that's been the the mode i've been in for a majority of my career

[00:19:43] you know over all my career i'm still at that now where i process had to process by no later than tuesday you actually got an increase in your window like uh yeah decrease or deep depending on how you want to look at it yes you have less time to process that yeah my window i have a little window right right a smaller window if you're so light yeah if you're in canada you got to process on monday for

[00:20:08] friday from us because of the yeah for the currency and the convertible farm yeah yeah so that means i had to get creative and you know use different resources create different auditing tools just just to kind of shore up for that and try to check things before more so than during because during we could capture a lot of stuff and go back to the the people and and let them know like hey this needs to be updated

[00:20:36] go update it and you know i'll recalc and this and that you know whatever and now it's more so like having to prompt it like having to change it up right and so i think that this you know like shoot i don't want to dare say that there's ever like a perfect payroll sometimes there has been there's been a few like perils in my career i could say like there's been no errors or anything like that as far as i know right right well because you don't know if you overpaid right yeah yeah exactly

[00:21:04] i think that they report it right because because the data is bad then there's going to be bad results or output and so um but yeah like i think this could pretty much like make payroll airtight from a processing standpoint and this will get us closer to that perfection that we seek yeah right yeah because you could take the time to audit an anestation the time and attendance those those

[00:21:33] different things you can take the time to audit the employee data even more so in detail if you can if you have monday through thursday oh my gosh to process to audit or days yeah my goodness i wish that let's talk yeah or you can and you and and you can put maybe depending on organization you can put more on the managers give the managers more time right yeah you got big organization being mad right

[00:22:00] like that like hey okay we'll give you an extra day to check time cards and to do all this stuff and like you know so yeah it can be changed it could definitely be a game changer there what myth can you break let's see i i want to see how well uh definitely a myth benefits you can save money through benefits

[00:22:24] melissa walker showed us how and brian smith showed us how to save money substantial money oh yeah substantial you can write through benefits you know that again top to bottom solutions has a really it's a product that's been out there and it's in the benefit you know space and you do get access to

[00:22:47] medical benefits but the pre-tax ability of it helps save not only the company money but employees money so it saves money both places significant amount of money right so if you're a big organization and you had a lot of people on benefits and you need to save some money or even not you just got a lot of people that need or have benefits like that's a so basically that that's what it broke for me like you

[00:23:12] can save money through benefits not just spend money right nice you know um so let me ask you this what goes into preparing for a season like this that listeners don't see like the behind the scenes what do you know what i mean like what what are some of the things we go through that they don't realize that we got to go through the prep for these seasons some of the things i like doing is like the research

[00:23:42] part especially when we have guests right and we get to find out about them and you know i love that this or that section and sometimes you know like not to creep anybody out but sometimes like i could be sitting in and thinking about something there's been times that this or that like questions and the ideas will pop into my head and it'd be right on point with the the person right and so i don't know that's esp or what maybe just me having a large hail and my girlfriend says that that's almost you know

[00:24:12] so i could figure those things out but like finding out more information about other professionals and hr benefits payroll like connecting with them and man it's just it's kind of giving me hope from a standpoint right because like there's so many decent people out there who really just care for others man so you know i kind of went off on a tell a side talk right there side street there but i think

[00:24:41] just that part for me is kind of like doing the research and gathering all the data man that that's one of my favorite parts hey hey i'm Katie van Horn and i'm Jackie Clayton we're your hosts of the inclusive amp podcast where we take on dei leadership and hr with all without all the corporate fluff that's right we've got decades of experience a lot of opinions and zero tolerance for performative anything

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[00:26:08] you really did your research like you know like in our intros you know when we read their intro and or when we do this or that and like we'll hit them with you know something that hits a little bit more personal for them i mean look and this is all like research like what is not rpi is to go dig into this for like it's just internet stuff that's available on linkedin you know but i guess i guess what they

[00:26:36] don't realize is that you take that extra step we take that extra step to kind of yeah you know see if we can learn about them and and be a little bit more intentional about the process and and the interview and the talk the conversation we have with them so yeah it's cool i could definitely uh attest to that

[00:26:58] perfect segue sir like how has doing this podcast changed you personally that's an easy one well okay it one it makes me a better payroll professional right i tell people all the time it's a cheat code the the podcast makes us better at our job the job makes us better at the podcast because when we first started

[00:27:23] this 200 over 200 episodes ago we didn't think that we would have this much to talk about we're like oh we're gonna run out of stuff but that's all right we'll take it as long as we can you know we're now what 208 five six like what kind of this is not oh three this is because we're behind on the thing i forget where we are right now we're over 200 episodes then well yeah yeah so um it again it makes

[00:27:53] us better at the job because all of this stuff comes up in conversation now you have we have the statistics that back up the theories and the the you know presumptions that folks make you know i can be like no that's not really true actually because we did the research and blah blah blah or that is true and we did the research and you know you know whatever it is and being open i think that's what i

[00:28:16] think professionally it's helped me to be more open to doing things better some dumb i'm look i'm almost 50 years old and i'm still learning and willing to say oh you know what this is a better way you know even for some bad actors that i've had to meet and deal with recently like you know they were still smart

[00:28:43] people that i still took things from and learned from them even though they don't know it yeah you know what i mean i may not i mean i wanted to give them that satisfaction of hey i learned from you even though you're a terrible professional but i learned something from you you know smart doesn't mean good with people like you know you can be smart and not be able to deal with people you know what i mean not everybody should be dealing with people um what about you right you're right no i i think

[00:29:13] for me personally like it's taught it's kind of broken me out of my shell right because you know me like i'm i'm probably way more introverted or to myself than most people right like i'm okay i can at home and be well myself with less of my own devices and be fine and not really yes you know that social that social battery battery will like be depleted really quick for me right but the the one the

[00:29:40] podcast for me has had me like come out of that shell a little bit and you know gain more confidence with asking questions and interviewing and you know getting more comfortable with because one of the things that when we first started this i was always like man oh we're gonna be out there you know for people to see and worried about was worried about yes you were you know people's especially when we

[00:30:02] went to video yeah i was worried worried about not not for any like aesthetic things or any looks or anything like that but more so like just just worried about people's opinions and now i'm just like whatever you know take me take me as i am or don't take me at all and the risk the reception that we

[00:30:26] receive from people has been like so so empowering for me from that standpoint right and it's just kind of let me know that the world not as bad as you know some of the things i've been through or some of the things that shameless putter in my book rules but not broken right like how to read all the world's not broken right like that yeah yes oh definitely famous look if y'all haven't read wall's book

[00:30:51] rules but not broken i think it's i'm gonna speak to it for him because i feel like it's hard for him to market and promote this book because it's something you will experience all the fields in this book you will laugh you will cry you will be hope you will end hopeful and it's an amazing journey through a piece of wall's life that he really opened up about is i would imagine it was therapeutic for you to write

[00:31:18] blow us but hard to promote because of how personal it is but go check it out is it most people that i've given to read it they read it in one day because they can't get it down yeah it's a short read it's a short autobiography just did it to try to help folks man and i i i have to credit the podcast because i don't

[00:31:44] think if i've done if i didn't do the podcast i'm not sure that i would have been confident enough to do the book interesting okay okay yeah that's a that's a i'll explain some things so back to this what challenge you to most this season mentally or professionally i think you know mentally

[00:32:11] the for me i guess it doesn't have anything to do with the podcast per se but just seeing all the layoffs all the different things that people are going through and you know and payroll professionals in the industry our peers you know like seeing you know a lot of people on linkedin and those are the ones i'm connected to right seeing a lot of people like say yeah i'm open for work because things have

[00:32:39] changed for them like that's been sobering for me it's just like man like things are really changing for folks you know and i think for me that's kind of being like the challenging part what about you it's my challenge mentally and professional i think that both mentally and

[00:33:02] professionally what's the word i'm looking for stamina was i mean like just being stretched thin this in this season is when i started the payroll managed payroll services consulting piece of payroll

[00:33:23] the payroll and it's been an exhausting journey fun dream come true to be a small business owner that is like independent right i don't i don't work for uh i don't have a boss i have a partner business partner

[00:33:45] and i my clients are my bosses right because i always tell people like you always have a boss you know you may not have someone that you report to a formal hierarchy in a structure and you're you're not a w2 employee sure no but our clients are still you know the clients that i work for and service are are my bosses so i'm multiple now but there's a lot more freedom you know because you're a contractor because

[00:34:12] i'm a vendor and a corporation it's a true 1099 test to all those paper professionals right i i meet 1099 tests fully you know so it means i you know i make my own schedule as long as i meet deadlines and things like that like you know there's a little i don't have to go oh can i you know can i go to the doctor today you know like it's it's some a lot of freedoms that i've earned right i've been doing

[00:34:39] payroll over 20 years and shout out to the last company that made this happen for me because sometimes bad things open up the door right like it's just oh word this happened oh something bad happened and then it was like bing you know so but it was testing it was it was a pure and then even then on top of that layer in personal challenges as well so it's been the most challenging time of my life

[00:35:09] and i still came through it winning and you know through it all the podcasts and you know and then the podcast suffered a little bit because i couldn't record some days and you know technology was against us some days like the you know so it was just we got hit with every type of challenge in this season you know and it was a challenge you know it was definitely uh a challenge mentally and professionally

[00:35:37] to just make sure we keep getting through it and and i think having a great resolve having a good optimistic outlook and you know staying on top of it like if you if you feel like you can only win and they can only be goods then you will you know you will and that's yeah yeah so what's this last one

[00:35:59] yeah if you could go back to episode one what would you tell yourself wait one of this whole podcast yeah episode one oh my yeah you go first if you've thought about this before longer than i have what do you think no no no no i think i think just speaking to what i my last answer to the last question

[00:36:22] right i would just tell myself man y'all got this you guys got this like be confident you know or whatever i had we learned it but i think oh yeah oh well you know you know what i know once you know i i would i would i would change i would change that i'm gonna change that answer okay because i feel like you're allowed like if i would have said that to myself i feel like if i would have

[00:36:48] said that to myself and yes it may have helped but it may not have i think some of the lessons along the way may not have been appreciated as much right yeah and so i think for me i would say enjoy the ride the one i thought about is honestly i know this sounds crazy but i would have built on social media

[00:37:17] branding better like across all channels that's that's one of the business things that i would we right because we didn't even know what to do you know and there was no blueprint you know and then it's always after the fact that you're like you know you talk about it with something oh well yeah you should have did it like this yeah where were you two years three years ago you know what i mean you were you're you remember the first background that we had for the podcast we gotta get that in the

[00:37:46] dark yes yes shout out to steve my boy scuba steve did that and it was dope right it was it was it was we loved it at the time and and we need to we need to put it on a poster so we could we can put it in the background but that's that og yes and make a t-shirt like we always say we're gonna make make sure we pay homage to that and i forgot about that right we used to do a virtual background you

[00:38:10] know the the green screen type deal but yeah that that's the what you said as well hey enjoy the ride and then and but yeah i would just like make that make those adjustments as far as business is concerned like across social media stuff but damn man you can sit man as we close it out visionary voices bold breakthroughs this is shally's alley where top recruiting minds spill their best

[00:38:40] secrets live every friday at 1 p.m eastern raw unfiltered conversations on sourcing hiring and the future of talent where we ask the tough questions no one else will tune in and level up you gotta i got a this or that for us looks fun with this and and mind you just so you know like the challenges that we were talking about we already recorded this episode but it was technical difficulties with that

[00:39:09] like and look sometimes that happens when you wait walt always telling me when you're about to level up you get challenged the most right he's always sending me clips like boom boom and we do it for each other right iron sharpens iron you know shout out to our other iron sharpen iron brothers and and that's what happens so if you're in life and you're like man everything is coming against me right now no you're about to level up and that's how that's what happens you get challenged so just keep pushing

[00:39:38] keep doing what you're doing you're probably on the right path i read something that said if you are scared and excited about your next step you're probably on the right path so yeah all right cool so as we close it out folks what's the this or that you got for us we're doing hip hop additions sir so i hope you enjoy this one and if you're a hip-hop head you might enjoy this too and we would love to

[00:40:03] hear your answers as well so let's get into it jay-z or naz easy for me naz as if you're watching the video of this queen all day all right tupac wait wait you got an answer too you got an answer yeah you got an answer there you go also naz okay uh tupac or biggie yeah i'm gonna have to say both on

[00:40:29] that one r.i.p rest and power yeah yeah man they were both titans in their own right that's what i'm saying they both died but you believe that they both died like 24 25 years ago yeah it's crazy crazy and then the the the level of stardom they had gotten to at that age with is incredible really is really and i think that's what makes them so yeah imagine where they would be yeah imagine where

[00:40:58] they would be now crazy right yeah they were still alive so like i think for me i gotta choose both yeah you know maybe that's you have to but like you kind of well yeah yeah you got kind of got kind of have to but yeah i hate it all right so next lil wayne or eminem i'm gonna have to go eminem on this

[00:41:20] one only because lil wayne is really actually really a dope emcee but i don't think he i don't think i think he makes more radio ready stuff it's for me i it's the stuff that you hear on the albums on the

[00:41:44] mixtapes that where he goes off and it's like who's that that's wayne oh wow the radio stuff is you know it's the club bangers the summer hits and all that stuff so it's like you know and that's what kind of that's where it sticks out for me for wayne i guess because i don't listen to enough of the

[00:42:07] other stuff whereas eminem even in his radio and party stuff he's still a great emcee right soft yeah so like wayne drops in emcee capable like stand like ranking when he does the party stuff

[00:42:29] and the radio stuff so yeah i understand everybody's entitled yeah their opinion for me for me like lil wayne is is is you know eminem is super talented um lil wayne's super talented you know in their own right each in their own right but for me i like i remember like being a teenage kid and you know cash money millionaires came out and lil wayne and you know bling bling and all those different songs came

[00:42:59] out you know and and and you know go dj was like one of my favorite songs you know back then you know i have to go with lil wayne because like yes lyrically eminem partly might have a little bit of the edge in some right in some ways but i think with this the the music the beats and stuff like that and like that and i think with this is a little bit of the music the beat and stuff like that and i think it's like a little bit of the music the beat and stuff like that's not a little bit of the

[00:43:28] rock to throw you off here aerosmith or red hot chili peppers but they still very hip-hop adjacent because aerosmith did the track with ron dmc but this one this one's tough i'm gonna go aerosmith one because they did because they did the track with ron dmc and two because i met steve tyler yeah back in the day when i was a kid i didn't really know how big he was when i met him

[00:43:57] and then it was later on that i was like oh i met that dude nice yeah what about you what about you aerosmith like one of my song favorite songs to this day is dream long i listen to i don't like not i've ever heard that one yeah dream you definitely heard oh yeah okay dream months dream long by aerosmith that's like one of my favorite ones like how it starts off like subtle and then it just kind of just like okay goes up more yeah i love that so that's one of my favorite

[00:44:25] songs that's dope that's dope all right r b boys the men or jodeci anny that's another tough one man i'm gonna have to say both okay yep both both iconic r&b groups yeah they're both iconic groups yeah yeah see jodeci they eventually broke up and became casey and jojo yeah wait they always break up

[00:44:53] yeah so i would have to say for me just because like you know their initial impact on the game of music just all around it has to be boys to live okay no doubt yeah no definitely they definitely highlight that michael bivins brought michael bivins went on a run he went on a run with that

[00:45:17] he's he's you know boys to met oh man abc bbc the the east coast family like bbd bbd that made me like yeah he just did it but uh yeah yeah i had to say both because boys the man again it so boys the man that song is so hard to say goodbye was out when my father passed away and that like that hit

[00:45:43] that hit hard then and then jodeci because they just they just also just highlighted that that uh what is it come and talk to me you know what i mean that like what i mean yeah what still you know i mean i still think of my wife when i hear that song and i just always envision her

[00:46:06] oh yeah that's yeah exactly bro you know um yeah man all right last one last one i don't know if you know both of these two i know one of them okay so panic at the disco or lincoln park i'm gonna say lincoln park because i don't know who panic at the disco some people that they're they're they're like they're a pretty proper little rock group

[00:46:33] but they're probably like what's their most favorite most popular song do you know what was that what was the uh one he was talking about the wedding i'm gonna look it up don't worry panic at the disco have any people ever heard closing the i'll look it up on spotify i'm sure but that's probably one of their they have a couple

[00:46:58] so what about you then it's lincoln park for you yeah yeah yeah yeah i definitely you know i'm starting to get my vinyl collection up oh really that's cool so i definitely want to get some vinyl for some some of these artists and i definitely want to get lincoln park or some others as well that's just up well thanks for that man that was dope thanks everybody for joining this much delayed

[00:47:23] season one in review and as we are deep into season or into the next season but it's always fun right at one point we realized we could drop those season reviews anytime yeah so i get i always like when folks like follow share tell a friend and tell a friend go buy the book and send the digital copy to someone who's looking for a new career or new grads check out the uh the training program we're

[00:47:53] really excited to be able to train new payroll professionals on a payroll system if you happen to be getting an isolve job or you want to go to a company that is working with isolve that is the system that we'll be training on not for nothing a lot of companies are scared they don't they didn't want to you know i i want to gossip but they didn't ask many companies you know to get involved be you

[00:48:17] know let's do it and they're all kind of really scared to expose themselves like that and that is telling that and that's what i'm doing so you know it is because uh at the end of the day that's uh you know payroll's payroll but please like share follow do the things reach out comment you know anything we can help with let us know so the next time we love you peace