Someone on your team manages 21 AI agents. They quit Friday. Who knows what those agents are doing Monday?
Cliff Stevenson joins William Tincup and Amy Miller for Part Two of Heroes of HR to discuss what happens when the workforce includes humans and AI agents. Cliff makes the case that evaluating inputs, fixing performance problems, and making sure workers have the right resources already sit in HR’s wheelhouse. The org chart just hasn’t caught up.
In this episode, we talk about AI adoption, employee self-service, workforce capital management, and why transparency matters when systems start doing actual work. Plus, a buying question worth stealing: everybody shows you what software looks like when it works. What happens when it fails?
Key Takeaways
Nobody went into HR to answer the same PTO question 15 times a week. Give employees a reliable way to get answers and give HR some time back.
Bad instructions, missing resources, work that misses expectations. HR already deals with this every day. Managing AI agents brings a familiar set of problems.
Someone manages 21 AI agents and leaves Friday. What happens Monday? If nobody knows what those agents do, you’ve got a bigger problem than replacing one employee.
Bring your actual problem to the demo. Ask what happens when the system fails. Then talk to customers whose businesses look like yours. Make the vendor earn something beyond your attention.
Timestamps
00:07 The Balance of Offense and Defense in Sports
01:04 The Evolution of AI Adoption
01:57 Refining AI Usage in Business
03:17 The Rise of Chatbots and AI Integration
05:09 Enhancing Employee Self-Service with AI
07:37 Workforce Capital Management: A New Paradigm
10:51 The Role of HR in Managing AI Systems
15:02 Key Considerations for HR Practitioners in System Selection
17:09 Customer References That Actually Match Your Business
18:31 Why Customer Communities Matter
The Heroes of HR podcast is a limited series sponsored by isolved.
isolved is an HCM platform that modernizes HR, benefits, and payroll across Healthcare, Hospitality, Manufacturing, and more.
Learn more about isolved: https://www.isolvedhcm.com/

Chapters
00:57 Previewing the annual HR Systems research
02:23 What the survey measures
05:10 Why historical context matters
06:46 Compliance, privacy, and fraud detection
09:13 Marketplaces, partnerships, and connected systems
11:14 Embedded capabilities and customer needs
13:24 Why AI needs humans and where HR fits
14:30 Building AI around practical business problems
16:54 Compliance moves beyond avoiding lawsuits
18:20 Protecting employee privacy inside the organization
21:01 AI adoption shifts toward refinement
24:14 isolved’s agent plans and employee self-service
27:10 Introducing workforce capital management
28:01 The “glass box” approach to AI
29:47 Why HR is equipped to manage AI agents
32:37 The invisible workforce missing from the org chart
34:17 Buying advice and planning for failure
36:42 Customer references and community
Guest: Cliff Stevenson
Cliff Stevenson is Director of Research at Sapient Insights Group. His work examines HR technology, customer experience, and how organizations select and use workforce systems.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cliffordstevenson/
Website: https://sapientinsights.com/
The Heroes of HR Podcast is hosted by
Amy Miller, Product Evangelist at isolved
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William Tincup, Co-founder at WRKdefined
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Ryan Leary, Co-founder at WRKdefined
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