At the Water's Edge

At the Water's Edge

Exploring American Security Policy

The At the Water’s Edge Podcast explores national security and geopolitics from an insider’s perspective, looking at how national power, industrial policy, diplomacy, and military might shape our world and America’s place in it.

Former NSC Official: The Iran War Exposed America’s Broken Strategy | Negah Angha
At the Water's EdgeMay 07, 202600:48:44

Former NSC Official: The Iran War Exposed America’s Broken Strategy | Negah Angha

Former State Department senior advisor and National Security Council official Negah Angha joins At the Water’s Edge to discuss what the war with Iran reveals about American strategy, alliances, and decision-making. Angha explains how major national security decisions are supposed to move through the...

The U.S. Is Losing Control | Robert Pape on Iran, China, and the Escalation Trap
At the Water's EdgeMay 05, 202600:40:32

The U.S. Is Losing Control | Robert Pape on Iran, China, and the Escalation Trap

This is Part 7 of The Escalation Trap, an ongoing series with Robert Pape of the University of Chicago tracking the war with Iran in real time. This week, the Trump administration announced Project Freedom, an effort to reopen the Strait of Hormuz by escorting ships through the waterway. At the same...

Are We Already in World War III? Ukraine, Iran, and the New Global Conflict | Paul Poast
At the Water's EdgeApril 29, 202601:02:28

Are We Already in World War III? Ukraine, Iran, and the New Global Conflict | Paul Poast

Are the wars in Ukraine and Iran separate conflicts—or part of something larger? In this episode of At the Water’s Edge, Scott sits down with Paul Poast, Associate Professor at the University of Chicago, to unpack his argument that we may already be living in a new era of “world war.” Rather than a ...

“NATO Is Dead” — Robert Pape on Iran and the New Power Map
At the Water's EdgeApril 28, 202600:41:45

“NATO Is Dead” — Robert Pape on Iran and the New Power Map

This is Part 6 of an ongoing series with Robert Pape (University of Chicago) tracking the Iran conflict in real time. Over the past week, we saw renewed efforts to restart negotiations—including a Pakistan-backed diplomatic push—but no meaningful progress. Ceasefires continue to be announced and col...

Special Forces Aren’t Ready for Drone Warfare | John Kowalski
At the Water's EdgeApril 22, 202600:52:28

Special Forces Aren’t Ready for Drone Warfare | John Kowalski

Drones are already reshaping modern warfare—from Ukraine to the Red Sea to the Strait of Hormuz. In this episode, Scott sits down with U.S. Army Special Forces Major John Kowalski to break down what that means for the future of conflict—and whether America is ready for it. Drawing on real-world exam...

This Isn’t a Negotiation | Robert Pape on the Iran War
At the Water's EdgeApril 21, 202600:31:33

This Isn’t a Negotiation | Robert Pape on the Iran War

This is Part 5 of an ongoing series with Robert Pape (University of Chicago) analyzing the Iran conflict in real time. Over the past week, multiple ceasefires were announced—and just as quickly fell apart. At the same time, the U.S. and Iran have continued escalating pressure through a de facto bloc...

What Happens If Iran Loses Control of Its Terror Network? | Dr. Colin P. Clarke
At the Water's EdgeApril 15, 202600:50:48

What Happens If Iran Loses Control of Its Terror Network? | Dr. Colin P. Clarke

What happens if Iran loses control of its global network of proxy groups? In this episode of At the Water’s Edge, Scott sits down with Dr. Colin P. Clarke, Executive Director of the Soufan Center, to break down how terrorism is evolving—and why the next phase may be more dangerous than the last. The...

No Way Out of the Escalation Trap | Robert Pape on Iran
At the Water's EdgeApril 14, 202600:31:28

No Way Out of the Escalation Trap | Robert Pape on Iran

This is Part 4 of an ongoing series with Robert Pape (University of Chicago) tracking the Iran conflict in real time. Over the past week, several developments point to a deeper shift in the trajectory of the war: A ceasefire briefly emerged—then collapsed within 24 hours The U.S. and Iran moved towa...

Why Iran’s Regime Isn’t About to Fall (And What Everyone Gets Wrong) | Arash Azizi
At the Water's EdgeApril 08, 202600:39:58

Why Iran’s Regime Isn’t About to Fall (And What Everyone Gets Wrong) | Arash Azizi

For years, many in Washington have assumed that pressure, protests, or targeted strikes could trigger regime change in Iran. But what if those assumptions are fundamentally wrong? In this episode, Scott sits down with Arash Azizi, a writer and historian focused on Iranian politics, to break down wha...

The Short War Illusion Is Over | Robert Pape on Iran Escalation
At the Water's EdgeApril 07, 202600:37:44

The Short War Illusion Is Over | Robert Pape on Iran Escalation

This is Part 3 of an ongoing series with Robert Pape (University of Chicago) analyzing the escalation dynamics of the Iran conflict in real time. Over the past week, several developments have shifted the trajectory of the war: U.S. ground forces entered Iran for the first time in a limited rescue op...