The $200,000 Employee You Already Have

Unmuted Podcast | Episode #88

Topic: The $200,000 Employee You Already Have
Guest: Ayana Carroll – Founder and CEO of MetrixAI
Host: Jeff Waldman – Founder & HR Tech Evangelist at ScaleHR & SocialHRCamp

Organizations can usually tell you where their money is going. But ask what skills, capabilities, and readiness their workforce already has, and the answer may be less clear. That blind spot can be costly. Companies may approve an external hire without first asking whether someone already on the team could step into the role. Meanwhile, employees may lack a clear view of where they can grow next.

In this episode of Unmuted, Jeff Waldman sits down with Ayana Carroll, founder and CEO of MetrixAI, to explore why internal mobility can be difficult to put into practice, and how better visibility into employees’ skills may help organizations find talent they already have.

Ayana shares what inspired her to build MetrixAI after seeing layoffs happen alongside external hiring, and explains why fragmented HR data, outdated systems, and an overreliance on job titles can make internal talent harder to see. Together, Jeff and Ayana discuss the potential costs of overlooking existing employees, how useful skills data can support employee growth, and what organizations can do to make internal mobility more visible and actionable.

We Explore:

• Why companies may hire externally without first considering internal talent
• How limited visibility into employee skills can make internal mobility harder
• Why HR data is often fragmented across systems and spreadsheets
• The difference between tracking job titles and understanding transferable skills
• What HRIS, learning management, and performance systems can, and cannot, tell you about workforce capabilities
• Why employees and managers need a meaningful reason to keep skills data up to date
• How internal talent visibility can support employee growth and organizational planning
• What Ayana hopes to learn from MetrixAI’s public beta
• Why employees are more engaged when they can see a path forward
• How organizations can make better use of the capabilities they already have

Timestamps

00:00 — Setup and getting ready to record

03:32 — Welcome to the Unmuted Podcast

04:02 — Introducing the episode: “The $200,000 employee you already have”

05:28 — Why it can be hard for HR to see workforce capabilities

06:28 — Meet Ayana Carroll, founder and CEO of MetrixAI

07:03 — Ayana’s HR background and career mission

08:30 — The experiences that inspired MetrixAI

10:55 — The gap between internal mobility programs and employee experience

12:56 — Why HR data can be scattered across systems

15:08 — The potential cost of overlooking internal talent

17:55 — Why organizations may default to external hiring

19:56 — What HR systems can—and can’t—show about employee capabilities

21:23 — Keeping workforce skills data current

23:58 — What Ayana hopes to learn from MetrixAI’s public beta

25:45 — What success could look like over the next year

27:08 — Looking beyond departmental boundaries to transferable skills

28:20 — The takeaway: help employees use their full capabilities

29:59 — Closing thoughts

About Ayana Carroll

Ayana Carroll is the founder and CEO of MetrixAI. With more than 25 years of experience as an HR practitioner, including at the executive level, Ayana has focused her career on helping people find their path. She also chaired the board for Dress for Success, supporting women as they work toward economic stability. Through MetrixAI, Ayana is working to help organizations better understand the skills and capabilities they already have, and help employees see where they might grow.

About MetrixAI's Public Beta

Your next great hire may already work for you. MetrixAI helps organizations with 250-3,000 employees uncover their people’s skills, identify growth opportunities and build stronger succession plans. Join its founding beta program to get full platform access, dedicated onboarding and a direct voice in shaping the product—with lifetime preferred pricing when you complete the program and become a paid subscriber.

Apply to become a founding beta partner.

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